less children?

[Krazykruiser]

Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
Any advice? Krazykruiser

[ArleneL]

Just travel when school is in session and for longer than 7 days. That
should take care of the "wild kids." As for those who poop in
diapers.....again, probably a longer cruise.

Arlene

Krazykruiser wrote:

> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[Rich Cacace]

Usually Sept through Nov (not including Thanksgiving) have less kids. The
first weeks in Dec are also less crowded - Christmas has a big increase.
Jan to May seem to attract less than average amounts but school breaks
throughout the year can cause big increases. Forget the summer months (June
to Aug) - they're all families with loads of kids of all ages & besides you
pay peak prices at those times anyway.
Also - the types of kids you're referring to don't belong in the hot tubs or
solariums to begin with. Most of the cruise line do enforce the "no kids"
rules, but if they don't a reminder would set things straight.

"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[Paul]

Krazy

First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children

Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents and
the ship's staff.

You want advice -- find a better cruse line.

Paul

"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[Howard Garland]

Krazykruiser wrote:

> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one.

I think I recall reading that, in the northern hemisphere, fewer births
occur in February than in any other month. My hypothesis is that this
occurs for two reasons.

1. February is two to three days shorter than any other month, save for
leapyears. Note that this would be true in the southern hemisphere as well.
2. Less conjugal activity in the month of June due to great weather.

Howard :)

[CupCaked]

(Krazykruiser) wrote:

>Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
>hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
>past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
>be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
>have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
>Any advice? Krazykruiser

Sure. Stick with the months the little darlings are in school, avoid
holidays as they will NOT be in school, but possibly on your ship with
you ( especially Spring break weeks.) We like late September thru
mid December, then mid January through early February, and late March
thru the end of June.

Karen


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[Jim L]

Celebrity Cruise Line does some adults only cruise through out the year. The
list for 2004 has just come out.

--
Jim,
Pride Cruises & Vacations
A Vacation.Com Member Agency
(617) 387-2464
"We Take Your Fun Seriously"


"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[Cruisetech]

I have seen some pretty geriatric type persons in the hottub with what
appear to be pampers on too......
Just don't like to blame the kids for EVERYTHING.....





"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[Tom & Linda]

Try July.

--Tom

Krazykruiser wrote:
>
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[James Gemmill]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:43 -0400, "Paul" >
wrote:

>Krazy
>
>First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
>
>Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
>most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents and
>the ship's staff.
>
>You want advice -- find a better cruse line.

I thnk you meant "cruise" line.

Don't you hate it when you correct someone with a mistake in your
correction.

Check this out:

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a
total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
wlohe.
amzanig huh!

>
>Paul
>
>"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
>> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
>> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
>> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
>> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
>> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
>> Any advice? Krazykruiser
>

[Mason Barge]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:17:12 -0700, James Gemmill
> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:43 -0400, "Paul" >
>wrote:
>
>>Krazy
>>
>>First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
>>
>>Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
>>most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents and
>>the ship's staff.
>>
>>You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
>
>I thnk you meant "cruise" line.
>
>Don't you hate it when you correct someone with a mistake in your
>correction.
>
>Check this out:
>
>Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
>inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
>taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a
>total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae
>the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
>wlohe.
>amzanig huh!

That actually is azinmag. I hardly even slowed down reading what you
wrote.


Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[Mason Barge]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:33:47 -0400, Howard Garland
> wrote:

>Krazykruiser wrote:
>
>> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>> year has less children, if there is one.
>
>I think I recall reading that, in the northern hemisphere, fewer births
>occur in February than in any other month. My hypothesis is that this
>occurs for two reasons.
>
>1. February is two to three days shorter than any other month, save for
>leapyears. Note that this would be true in the southern hemisphere as well.
>2. Less conjugal activity in the month of June due to great weather.

Hmmmm. How about *cough* the beach after dark?
Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[Paul]

it's bait for Goober Mike -- now you spoiled it

"James Gemmill" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:43 -0400, "Paul" >
> wrote:
>
> >Krazy
> >
> >First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
> >
> >Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
> >most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
and
> >the ship's staff.
> >
> >You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
>
> I thnk you meant "cruise" line.
>
> Don't you hate it when you correct someone with a mistake in your
> correction.
>
> Check this out:
>
> Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
> inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
> taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a
> total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae
> the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
> wlohe.
> amzanig huh!
>
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> om...
> >> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> >> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> >> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> >> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> >> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> >> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> >> Any advice? Krazykruiser
> >
>

[Nitemare]

There are usually FEWER children when school is in session.

;-)

"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> Any advice? Krazykruiser

[fishman]

"Mason Barge" > wrote in message
...
>
> That actually is azinmag. I hardly even slowed down reading what you
> wrote.
>
>
> Mason Barge
>
> "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please
bring me some coffee."
> -- Abraham Lincoln


He can't calim crdiet:
http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/cambridge.asp

Chris

[SNUMBER6]

>From: "Nitemare"

>There are usually FEWER children when school is in session.
>
>;-)

and as bad as school lunches are ... less children too ...

Be seeing you
In the Village
Number 6

[Bare Nookey]

I guess someone has to like kids.... There is a Cruise Line that used to
advertise NO BRATS! and sent mailings that had a circle with a cartoon of a
child with a slingshot with the line through it (picture the no smoking signs
with the line through it). I think it was Raddison or Crystal. Anyways, I am
with you, travel when the children are in School. As far as the Diaper thing,
yes, it does cause a SERIOUS HEALTH RISK (you can DIE...and anyone who wants to
debate this, I will be more than happy to do so along with factual proofs) and
there is really no way for the ships to monitor this. Also, I never understood
why ANYONE would go on a cruise with something so young that it wears Diapers.
I would stay clear of all hot tubs due to this and the risk of Legionaires
Disease from them too as well as Shigella. Use your own hot tub when you get
back from the cruise. Check CDC site for more info as well as some useful
cruise ship sanitary ratings for all ships. A must read for EVERYONE who ever
cruises.

Cheers!

[Nitemare]

"SNUMBER6" > wrote in message
...
> >From: "Nitemare"
>
> >There are usually FEWER children when school is in session.
> >
> >;-)
>
> and as bad as school lunches are ... less children too ...

They keep eating like they are and there will be less children, but more of
each of them.
>
> Be seeing you
> In the Village
> Number 6
>

[CupCaked]

"Nitemare" > wrote:

>"SNUMBER6" > wrote

>> and as bad as school lunches are ... less children too ...

>They keep eating like they are and there will be less children, but more of
>each of them.

You're right. Obesity in children is epidemic in this country.

Karen



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[Howard Garland]

> Hmmmm. How about *cough* the beach after dark?
> Mason Barge

I had almost forgotten about all those used condoms I would see in the
morning on the New York beaches when I was a kid. Brings back such fond
memories.

Howard

[Howard Garland]

Bare Nookey wrote:
Also, I never understood
> why ANYONE would go on a cruise with something so young that it wears Diapers.

Because they enjoy cruising and "it" as you refer to a baby, is their child.

> I would stay clear of all hot tubs due to this and the risk of Legionaires
> Disease from them too as well as Shigella. Use your own hot tub when you get
> back from the cruise. Check CDC site for more info as well as some useful
> cruise ship sanitary ratings for all ships. A must read for EVERYONE who ever
> cruises.

An easier remedy would involve a prescription for Paxil. I hear it
works wonders for folks who suffer from OCDs.

Howard

[SNUMBER6]

>From: Howard Garland

>I had almost forgotten about all those used condoms I would see in the
>morning on the New York beaches when I was a kid. Brings back such fond
>memories.

I was told they were eel skins that were shed ...



Be seeing you
In the Village
Number 6

[Tom]

You might also want to check with some of the cruise lines to see when
and where they offer adult only cruises. I know that Celebrity does
offer some of these cruises to some of their locations on a sporadic
basis.

[Margaret]

Yes!! We've seen this too, but never mentioned it assuming it was a
one time only thing. I always thought that public pools are so
heavily chlorinated just for such reasons.

"Cruisetech" > wrote ...
> I have seen some pretty geriatric type persons in the hottub with what
> appear to be pampers on too......
> Just don't like to blame the kids for EVERYTHING....

[Dick Goldhaber]

Howard,

One would think that conjugality would be at its greatest during the holiday
season, what with mistletoe and egg nog. Danni was born on September 25th,
just shy of the end of the ninth month of the year. :)

Seriously, I wonder what the birth rate in the "blackout" area will be nine
months from that night.

One would think that the birth rate would rise as a result of the summer
re-run season on TV.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ



"Howard Garland" > wrote in message
...
> Krazykruiser wrote:
>
> > Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > year has less children, if there is one.
>
> I think I recall reading that, in the northern hemisphere, fewer births
> occur in February than in any other month. My hypothesis is that this
> occurs for two reasons.
>
> 1. February is two to three days shorter than any other month, save for
> leapyears. Note that this would be true in the southern hemisphere as
well.
> 2. Less conjugal activity in the month of June due to great weather.
>
> Howard :)
>

[Dick Goldhaber]

Gosh, Paul, I almost missed the sarcasm of your previous Carnival bash.
Thank you for explaining it to the "goobers".
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


"Paul" > wrote in message
...
> it's bait for Goober Mike -- now you spoiled it
>
> "James Gemmill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:04:43 -0400, "Paul" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Krazy
> > >
> > >First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
> > >
> > >Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for
the
> > >most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
> and
> > >the ship's staff.
> > >
> > >You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
> >
> > I thnk you meant "cruise" line.
> >
> > Don't you hate it when you correct someone with a mistake in your
> > correction.
> >
> > Check this out:
> >
> > Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
> > inwaht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
> > taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a
> > total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae
> > the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
> > wlohe.
> > amzanig huh!
> >
> > >
> > >Paul
> > >
> > >"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > >> Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > >> year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> > >> hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> > >> past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money
to
> > >> be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs
cant
> > >> have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> > >> Any advice? Krazykruiser
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dick Goldhaber]

Rich,

Add the ship to the equation.

Our last five cruises have been on Holland America and they have all been at
least 12 days during the school year and you could count the number of
children on one hand.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


"Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO > wrote in message
. net...
> Usually Sept through Nov (not including Thanksgiving) have less kids. The
> first weeks in Dec are also less crowded - Christmas has a big increase.
> Jan to May seem to attract less than average amounts but school breaks
> throughout the year can cause big increases. Forget the summer months
(June
> to Aug) - they're all families with loads of kids of all ages & besides
you
> pay peak prices at those times anyway.
> Also - the types of kids you're referring to don't belong in the hot tubs
or
> solariums to begin with. Most of the cruise line do enforce the "no kids"
> rules, but if they don't a reminder would set things straight.
>
> "Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> > hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> > past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> > be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> > have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> > Any advice? Krazykruiser
>
>

[N. Jill Velencia]

<<Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
inwaht oredr the>> etc. etc.

James,
This was a very good example. I had no trouble at all reading and
understanding the paragraph.

There will always be people that like to "nitpick".

If I can decipher the post, even if it occasionally takes a couple
minutes, I am fine. There is, however one person that posts on rtc that
I sometimes can't figure out. It isn't because of spelling or
grammatical errors, just because I don't have a clue how to decode her
ramblings. Enough said about that. ;-)

Jill - Seattle

[KPJEG]

No they were called NY white fish !!!!! LOL !!!

[Rich Cacace]

And I'll bet the one's that you encountered were well behaved. We've found
that children that travel on the off season are usually exceptional students
to begin with & they seem to be more civilized than most you'll find during
the summer months - especially on 10 & 12 day cruises.

"Dick Goldhaber" > wrote in message
...
> Rich,
>
> Add the ship to the equation.
>
> Our last five cruises have been on Holland America and they have all been
at
> least 12 days during the school year and you could count the number of
> children on one hand.
> --
> DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
>
>
> "Rich Cacace" <richcacace-REMOVE TO > wrote in message
> . net...
> > Usually Sept through Nov (not including Thanksgiving) have less kids.
The
> > first weeks in Dec are also less crowded - Christmas has a big increase.
> > Jan to May seem to attract less than average amounts but school breaks
> > throughout the year can cause big increases. Forget the summer months
> (June
> > to Aug) - they're all families with loads of kids of all ages & besides
> you
> > pay peak prices at those times anyway.
> > Also - the types of kids you're referring to don't belong in the hot
tubs
> or
> > solariums to begin with. Most of the cruise line do enforce the "no
kids"
> > rules, but if they don't a reminder would set things straight.
> >
> > "Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > > year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> > > hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> > > past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> > > be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> > > have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> > > Any advice? Krazykruiser
> >
> >
>
>

[Mason Barge]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:43:26 -0400, "Dick Goldhaber"
> wrote:

>Howard,
>
>One would think that conjugality would be at its greatest during the holiday
>season, what with mistletoe and egg nog. Danni was born on September 25th,
>just shy of the end of the ninth month of the year. :)
>
>Seriously, I wonder what the birth rate in the "blackout" area will be nine
>months from that night.
>
>One would think that the birth rate would rise as a result of the summer
>re-run season on TV.

Have you ever heard the Cole Porter song "Too Darn Hot"?


Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[Mason Barge]

On 18 Sep 2003 08:57:44 -0700, (Krazykruiser)
wrote:

>Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
>hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
>past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
>be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
>have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
>Any advice? Krazykruiser

You know -- I have never seen a child in diapers in a cruise pool. So
I suggest you let me be your cruise advisor, I seem to avoid this
phenomenon naturally!

The most young children I have seen was on a HAL Christmas cruise a
couple of years ago, but they were quite well-behaved and
well-supervised. One did ask me to sign a line on a scavenger hunt
sheet, which is not my idea of "running wild".

While the month is important (Sept-mid Dec, and January-May if you
avoid spring break crowds), I think the ship and itinerary is more
important. Take HAL or NCL among the mass-market lines, with
Celebrity/Princess as second choice. (I think most of these actually
limit the number of children they will allow on board.) Go for more
than 7 days. Stay out of the Caribbean during summer and spring
break.


Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[Bare Nookey]

>> why ANYONE would go on a cruise with something so young that it wears
>Diapers.
>
>Because they enjoy cruising and "it" as you refer to a baby, is their child.
>

Spending a cruise taking care of an infant is no vacation and a waste of money.
Sitting next to a table (or even in the same dining room for that matter) with
loud crying and screaming is not only annoying and obnoxious, it is VERY rude
on the part of the people causing the disruption to a room full of paying
customers trying to enjoy a sane vacation.

>> I would stay clear of all hot tubs due to this and the risk of Legionaires
>> Disease from them too as well as Shigella. Use your own hot tub when you
>get
>> back from the cruise. Check CDC site for more info as well as some useful
>> cruise ship sanitary ratings for all ships. A must read for EVERYONE who
>ever
>> cruises.
>
>An easier remedy would involve a prescription for Paxil. I hear it
>works wonders for folks who suffer from OCDs.

Tell that to my uncle who died as a result of a sickness that the cruise line
was found responsible for, you yuppie baby-booming insensitive IGNORANT ****.

[fishman]

"Bare Nookey" > wrote in message
...
> Tell that to my uncle who died as a result of a sickness that the cruise
line
> was found responsible for, you yuppie baby-booming insensitive .


And babies are responsible for this how?

Chris

[Bare Nookey]

>And babies are responsible for this how?
>
>Chris

Who said they were? Put on your glasses if you have them (if you don't, you may
need some) go back and read ALL of the original post S-L-O-W-L-Y.

[Mason Barge]

On 20 Sep 2003 23:01:50 GMT, (Bare Nookey)
wrote:

>>And babies are responsible for this how?
>>
>>Chris
>
>Who said they were? Put on your glasses if you have them (if you don't, you may
>need some) go back and read ALL of the original post S-L-O-W-L-Y.

Thank God for killfile. Bye bye "bare nookey", you are one simmering
pot of anger.


Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[Jim]

Re: less children?

Group: rec.travel.cruises Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2003, 5:13am (EDT+4) From:
(Bare=A0Nookey)
I guess someone has to like kids.... There is a Cruise Line that used to
advertise NO BRATS! and sent mailings that had a circle with a cartoon
of a child with a slingshot with the line through it (picture the no
smoking signs with the line through it). I think it was Raddison or
Crystal. Anyways, I am with you, travel when the children are in School.
As far as the Diaper thing, yes, it does cause a SERIOUS HEALTH RISK
(you can DIE...and anyone who wants to debate this, I will be more than
happy to do so along with factual proofs) and there is really no way for
the ships to monitor this. Also, I never understood why ANYONE would go
on a cruise with something so young that it wears Diapers. I would stay
clear of all hot tubs due to this and the risk of Legionaires Disease
from them too as well as Shigella. Use your own hot tub when you get
back from the cruise. Check CDC site for more info as well as some
useful cruise ship sanitary ratings for all ships. A must read for
EVERYONE who ever cruises.
Cheers!

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

OH NO!!! Bare Nooky, don't you know that those people have the
"RIGHT" to bring their young ones( no matter how young they may be) on
their cruise????
BUT, I am with you.
I know where you ae commin' from.
I know what you're sayin'. JDR

[Jim]

Re: less children?

Group: rec.travel.cruises Date: Sat, Sep 20, 2003, 9:24pm (EDT+4) From:
(Bare=A0Nookey)
why ANYONE would go on a cruise with something so young that it wears
Diapers.
Because they enjoy cruising and "it" as you refer to a baby, is their
child.
Spending a cruise taking care of an infant is no vacation and a waste of
money. Sitting next to a table (or even in the same dining room for that
matter) with loud crying and screaming is not only annoying and
obnoxious, it is VERY rude on the part of the people causing the
disruption to a room full of paying customers trying to enjoy a sane
vacation.
I would stay clear of all hot tubs due to this and the risk of
Legionaires Disease from them too as well as Shigella. Use your own hot
tub when you get back from the cruise. Check CDC site for more info as
well as some useful cruise ship sanitary ratings for all ships. A must
read for EVERYONE who ever cruises.
An easier remedy would involve a prescription for Paxil. I hear it works
wonders for folks who suffer from OCDs.
Tell that to my uncle who died as a result of a sickness that the cruise
line was found responsible for, you yuppie baby-booming insensitive
IGNORANT ****.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

I like you. Where have you been?

[Phil]

You just earned a spot in many a killfile,

Plonk

Phil
Seacruise

Jim wrote:

> you yuppie baby-booming insensitive
> IGNORANT ****.

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[Howard Garland]

Bare Nookey wrote:

> Tell that to my uncle who died as a result of a sickness that the cruise line
> was found responsible for, you yuppie baby-booming insensitive IGNORANT ****.

Sorry about your uncle. Perhaps I was wrong about Paxil; Thorazine
seems a more appropriate remedy for your problem.

Howard - who is undoubtedly an "ignorant ****" and definitely a baby
boomer, but lacks at least three of the characteristics that would
quality him for yuppie status. Nice chatting with you, Nookey.

[mbisson]

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[Deb Vitous]

Paul...........SHUT UPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!


"Paul" > wrote in message
...
> Krazy
>
> First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
>
> Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
> most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
and
> the ship's staff.
>
> You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
>
> Paul
>
> "Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> > hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> > past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> > be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> > have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> > Any advice? Krazykruiser
>
>

[Sue and Kevin Mullen]

Deb, Just put him in your killfile and ignore him.........sue

Deb Vitous wrote:

> Paul...........SHUT UPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Krazy
>>
>>First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
>>
>>Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
>>most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
>
> and
>
>>the ship's staff.
>>
>>You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>>>Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>>>year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
>>>hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
>>>past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
>>>be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
>>>have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
>>>Any advice? Krazykruiser
>>
>>
>
>

[Dick Goldhaber]

AMEN
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


"Deb Vitous" > wrote in message
...
> Paul...........SHUT UPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Krazy
> >
> > First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
> >
> > Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
> > most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
> and
> > the ship's staff.
> >
> > You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > "Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> > > year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> > > hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> > > past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> > > be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> > > have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> > > Any advice? Krazykruiser
> >
> >
>
>

[Dick Goldhaber]

Sue,

I'd love to, but Paul has been known to post notes which suggest that I have
Alzheimer's, and I need to know when he does.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


"Sue and Kevin Mullen" > wrote in message
...
> Deb, Just put him in your killfile and ignore him.........sue
>
> Deb Vitous wrote:
>
> > Paul...........SHUT UPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > "Paul" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Krazy
> >>
> >>First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
> >>
> >>Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
> >>most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
> >
> > and
> >
> >>the ship's staff.
> >>
> >>You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
> >>
> >>Paul
> >>
> >>"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
> om...
> >>
> >>>Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
> >>>year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
> >>>hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
> >>>past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
> >>>be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
> >>>have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
> >>>Any advice? Krazykruiser
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Tricia Mushinski]

go on an adult only cruise...duhh!!

[Sue and Kevin Mullen]

Dick, Altho I disagree with you on this, I was not telling you to
killfile him, I was telling Deb to killfile the troll.

sue

Dick Goldhaber wrote:

> Sue,
>
> I'd love to, but Paul has been known to post notes which suggest that I have
> Alzheimer's, and I need to know when he does.
> --
> DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
>
>
> "Sue and Kevin Mullen" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Deb, Just put him in your killfile and ignore him.........sue
>>
>>Deb Vitous wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Paul...........SHUT UPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>"Paul" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Krazy
>>>>
>>>>First you mean "fewer" children, not "less" children
>>>>
>>>>Second, had you gone on a decent line, you would have found that for the
>>>>most part, children are well behaved and properly supervised by parents
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>the ship's staff.
>>>>
>>>>You want advice -- find a better cruse line.
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>"Krazykruiser" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello all, I want to know if anyone can tell me which month of the
>>>>>year has less children, if there is one. I love kids but not in the
>>>>>hot tubs and running wild on decks at the expense of other guests. My
>>>>>past experience has been awful and I do not want to spend the money to
>>>>>be miserable. You have to wonder if poopy diapers in the hot tubs cant
>>>>>have something to do with sickness on these ships. Also in the pools.
>>>>>Any advice? Krazykruiser
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

[Queen of Cruising]

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:45:27 -0500 (CDT), (Tricia
Mushinski) wrote:

>go on an adult only cruise...duhh!!

Oh, I see. I should limit MY leisure time to a few all-adult cruises
so you can take your brat infant on any cruise you want.

Get a life.

[Jim]

>From: (Queen=A0of=A0Cruising)
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:45:27 -0500 (CDT), (Tricia
Mushinski) wrote:
go on an adult only cruise...duhh!!
Oh, I see. I should limit MY leisure time to a few all-adult cruises so
you can take your brat infant on any cruise you want.
Get a life.<

Q of C, they do not "take" their infant on a cruise. He/she is dragged
by the parent or parents. JDR

[Queen of Cruising]

>>From: (Queen*of*Cruising)
>On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:45:27 -0500 (CDT), (Tricia
>Mushinski) wrote:

>go on an adult only cruise...duhh!!


>Oh, I see. I should limit MY leisure time to a few all-adult cruises so
>you can take your brat infant on any cruise you want.
>Get a life.<

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT), (Jim) wrote:

>Q of C, they do not "take" their infant on a cruise. He/she is dragged
>by the parent or parents. JDR

So true. Sometimes I wonder, when I see an infant crying bloody murder
on a cruise, what is going trough that little tykes mind. Is she/he
seasick? How would you know? Too many people too much of the time? How
would you know?

[Jim]

From: (Queen=A0of=A0Cruising)
From: (Queen=A0of=A0Cruising)
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:45:27 -0500 (CDT), (Tricia
Mushinski) wrote:
go on an adult only cruise...duhh!!
Oh, I see. I should limit MY leisure time to a few all-adult cruises so
you can take your brat infant on any cruise you want. Get a life.<
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT), (Jim) wrote:
Q of C, they do not "take" their infant on a cruise. He/she is dragged
by the parent or parents. JDR

So true. Sometimes I wonder, when I see an infant crying bloody murder
on a cruise, what is going trough that little tykes mind. Is she/he
seasick? How would you know? Too many people too much of the time? How
would you know?
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

It reminds me of the times when I hear a kid SCREAMING in a retail
establishment. Mom OR 'nana is pushing the cart with the kid throwing
and hitting them with an object.
They just keep pushing the cart like nothing is going on and the child
is disobeying every word............etc...........
Same thing on a cruise ship.
JDR

[Cynthia Taylor]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 14:20:02 GMT, (CupCaked)
wrote:

>
>Careful, Jim. . . you're opening yourself up for some serious flaming.
>Some folks just don't want to hear that, although we all know it
>happens and we've all seen it ourselves. I can't imagine Mom or 'Nana
>NOT knowing their child is behaving badly and is causing a fuss right
>in the middle of a store, a theatre, a church service, etc. They, all
>of a sudden, are struck deaf, dumb and blind.
>
>But then, some here would also think you'd have to have borne children
>yourself to exhibit that kind of blindness, deafness and dumbness ;-)
>
>Karen (my pets are better behaved than some peoples' kids)
>

The offensive part, to me, at least, is that some people on this group
assume that EVERY parent is like this. I am not going to go into a
defense saying that I am not like that, because i know you won't
believe me. But it bothers me that you just assume that I am just
because I am a parent who doesn't believe in hiding her children away
from the public until they are old enough to vote.

I'm willing to bet that for every screaming child that you notice in a
public, there are a few who are perfectly well behaved that you don't
notice, because they aren't causing a fuss. They are out there.

I have seen screaming children, and parents who ignore them, get upset
at them, or plead with them to hold on for a minute so that they can
complete whatever critically important task they are involved in. I'm
not saying they aren't out there. But some of us know our children
well enough to:

a) not to bring their children in public when they are tired or off
b) recognize when the child's patience is about to wear out and head
off a situation

.... and if those fail, we remove our children from the situation as
soon as the storm hits.

Believe it or not, the sound of my child crying makes my stomach turn
in knots. I tense up, and immediately want to do whatever I have to to
make it stop. I can't ignore it, and I haven't spoken to too many
mothers who can. Oops, guess I'm defending myself. Sorry. Go ahead and
tell me I'm deaf, dumb, blind, and delusional. Oh, and an idiot.

Cynthia

[Cynthia Taylor]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:34:20 GMT, (CupCaked)
wrote:

>Careful, Cynthia. . . I said "some parents."
>
[...]
>
>Karen
>

Yes, you did. And I got a little more worked up than I intended to.
I'm a little on edge today over the parent issues, because my son
hates me at the moment because I told him he wouldn't be allowed to
watch Power Rangers at his aunt's house anymore because he was
punching at day care. I hate having to be the bad guy. I much prefer
the laughing and giggling part of being a parent.

It was not so much you that I was getting defensive about, so much as
the generally expressed sentiment of this newsgroup. A person can't
even ask for tips on going cruising with a child without being called
an idiot, and spawning a huge thread on how selfish and deluded any
parent is who would choose to take their child on vacation. The
general assumption is that every child is going to be disruptive. And
I just don't believe that is true. I've just seen too many well
behaved kids in public places.

Sorry to go off on you specifically; I'll try to be less sensitive in
the future.

Cynthia

[Mike]

>t was not so much you that I was getting defensive about, so much as
>the generally expressed sentiment of this newsgroup. A person can't
>even ask for tips on going cruising with a child without being called
>an idiot, and spawning a huge thread on how selfish and deluded any
>parent is who would choose to take their child on vacation. The
>general assumption is that every child is going to be disruptive. And
>I just don't believe that is true. I've just seen too many well
>behaved kids in public places.
>
>Sorry to go off on you specifically; I'll try to be less sensitive in
>the future.
>
>Cynthia
>
>

As a 60 year old father of two tweens and as a long-time lurker and poster on
rtc, I can assure you that the knee-jerk anti-kid posters are few and far
between. But, like anything else these days, it is only the fringe who persist
in one-note posting.


Mike

[Jim]

Cynthia?, your child does not hate you. He may say he hates you but you
know, and I know, that he loves you. :):) JDR

[Diva]

Most kids under three are just not yet socialized. You can't expect them =
to be -- they are incapable of it. Granted there are some kids who are =
just "born mellow" types who won't cause any problems ever, but that's =
not really what I've seen to be the norm. When a kid gets tired they =
usually get crabby -- hell so do I. The difference is, I can reason and =
a toddler can't. Just as I would never have taken my young dog anywhere =
where he might annoy people when he was a raving idiot pup, I feel the =
same should hold true for people and their offspring who are just not =
READY for certain situations. Yes, I thought it was cute when we were at =
home and he had a break from training and did all sorts of silly stuff, =
and as he got older he learned what was acceptable and what wasn't -- =
all the time. Kids are pretty much the same -- and I understand why a =
lot of adults have strong feelings about not wanting to be exposed to =
these "little darlings" when they lose it. Obviously, they've BEEN =
exposed to kids who are beside themselves and their parents are too =
stupid and inconsiderate to do anything about it. Haven't we all seen =
that at one time or another? The sad thing is that I'm willing to bet =
that most of these types will never change, and those kids will turn =
into older and older monsters because their parents are too insensitive =
and selfish to DO anything about it. Yech. I saw lots of the older =
versions on Celebrity during a summer eastern Caribbean cruise out of =
Baltimore. They would sit on the stairways in the late evening and =
generally act like rude, sullen little ****s -- making nasty comments to =
many of the passengers as they walked by. The security staff was pretty =
busy on that cruise.

June=20

"Cynthia Taylor" > wrote in message =
...
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 14:20:02 GMT, (CupCaked)
wrote:

>
>Careful, Jim. . . you're opening yourself up for some serious flaming.
>Some folks just don't want to hear that, although we all know it
>happens and we've all seen it ourselves. I can't imagine Mom or 'Nana
>NOT knowing their child is behaving badly and is causing a fuss right
>in the middle of a store, a theatre, a church service, etc. They, all
>of a sudden, are struck deaf, dumb and blind.
>
>But then, some here would also think you'd have to have borne children
>yourself to exhibit that kind of blindness, deafness and dumbness ;-)
>
>Karen (my pets are better behaved than some peoples' kids)
>

The offensive part, to me, at least, is that some people on this group
assume that EVERY parent is like this. I am not going to go into a
defense saying that I am not like that, because i know you won't
believe me. But it bothers me that you just assume that I am just
because I am a parent who doesn't believe in hiding her children away
from the public until they are old enough to vote.=20

I'm willing to bet that for every screaming child that you notice in a
public, there are a few who are perfectly well behaved that you don't
notice, because they aren't causing a fuss. They are out there.

I have seen screaming children, and parents who ignore them, get upset
at them, or plead with them to hold on for a minute so that they can
complete whatever critically important task they are involved in. I'm
not saying they aren't out there. But some of us know our children
well enough to:

a) not to bring their children in public when they are tired or off=20
b) recognize when the child's patience is about to wear out and head
off a situation

.... and if those fail, we remove our children from the situation as
soon as the storm hits.=20

Believe it or not, the sound of my child crying makes my stomach turn
in knots. I tense up, and immediately want to do whatever I have to to
make it stop. I can't ignore it, and I haven't spoken to too many
mothers who can. Oops, guess I'm defending myself. Sorry. Go ahead and
tell me I'm deaf, dumb, blind, and delusional. Oh, and an idiot.

Cynthia

[Queen of Cruising]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:23:21 GMT, Cynthia Taylor
> wrote:

>The offensive part, to me, at least, is that some people on this group
>assume that EVERY parent is like this. I am not going to go into a
>defense saying that I am not like that, because i know you won't
>believe me.

Every parent is not like that but way too many parents on RTC are and
their posts prove it.

>I'm willing to bet that for every screaming child that you notice in a
>public, there are a few who are perfectly well behaved that you don't
>notice, because they aren't causing a fuss. They are out there.

I don't care is 99,999 out of 100,000 are Baby angels. One on a
cruise, in my vicinity, is enough for me.

>But some of us know our children
>well enough to:
>
>a) not to bring their children in public when they are tired or off
>b) recognize when the child's patience is about to wear out and head
>off a situation
>
>... and if those fail, we remove our children from the situation as
>soon as the storm hits.

Try c) Don't take an infant on a cruise in the first place since I
have NO interest in gambling thousands of $$$$$$$ on your trials and
tests.

[Queen of Cruising]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:07:00 GMT, Cynthia Taylor
> wrote:

> A person can't
>even ask for tips on going cruising with a child without being called
>an idiot,

Idiot status is for infants only. Kids, we can BBQ them.

>and spawning a huge thread on how selfish and deluded any
>parent is who would choose to take their child on vacation.

See above.

[Queen of Cruising]

On 07 Oct 2003 22:45:57 GMT, (Mike) wrote:

>As a 60 year old father of two tweens and as a long-time lurker and poster on
>rtc, I can assure you that the knee-jerk anti-kid posters are few and far
>between. But, like anything else these days, it is only the fringe who persist
>in one-note posting.

I hope this is your second pair of kids. Starting that late and all.

[Jim]

How about a special 'hospital cruise" for people who bring their infants
on board?
ALSO the infirmary and the whole bottom deck be revamped to be a nursery
and if a woman is about to have her kid at any moment, hey go to the
infirmary and they will induce labor and you can have your kid on the
ship and then take your little bundle of joy around the casino, and the
theatre.
No need to havea topless deck like on Carnival ships because the(well
SOME) women will be going around topless because they will be breast
feeding their little ones. :) :) JDR

[Howard Garland]

Jim wrote:

> How about a special 'hospital cruise" for people who bring their infants
> on board?
> ALSO the infirmary and the whole bottom deck be revamped to be a nursery
> and if a woman is about to have her kid at any moment, hey go to the
> infirmary and they will induce labor and you can have your kid on the
> ship and then take your little bundle of joy around the casino, and the
> theatre.
> No need to havea topless deck like on Carnival ships because the(well
> SOME) women will be going around topless because they will be breast
> feeding their little ones. :) :) JDR

You are one sick puppy!

Howard

[Jim]

Howard,
I know I am, but, I bet you did smile or snicker when you read it. JDR

Less children??
Wrong.
There will be more on this new RTCHOSPITALCRUISE2004

[Queen of Cruising]

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:03:43 -0400 (EDT), (Jim)
wrote:

>How about a special 'hospital cruise" for people who bring their infants
>on board?
>ALSO the infirmary and the whole bottom deck be revamped to be a nursery
>and if a woman is about to have her kid at any moment, hey go to the
>infirmary and they will induce labor and you can have your kid on the
>ship and then take your little bundle of joy around the casino, and the
>theatre.
>No need to havea topless deck like on Carnival ships because the(well
>SOME) women will be going around topless because they will be breast
>feeding their little ones. :) :) JDR

LOL