Alberta , price of fuel $6 U.S. a gallon

[gel[_2_]]

i guess it is better to avoid to travel to Alberta just to see a flat
land.
I made it to Edmonton only to drive of bad streets that made my car
feel like a boxcart .To only big attraction in Edmonton is refineries,

The only good part of the trip was to drive thru the rockies mountains
which start west of Calgary and extend well into British Colombia.
But those craxy canuks pay over $ 6 U.S. a gallon for fuel which made
my trip a painfull experience.Even the food is expensive especially in
Alberta.

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[sechumlib]

On 2006-08-07 15:08:49 -0400, gel > said:

> i guess it is better to avoid to travel to Alberta just to see a flat
> land.
> I made it to Edmonton only to drive of bad streets that made my car
> feel like a boxcart .To only big attraction in Edmonton is refineries,
> The only good part of the trip was to drive thru the rockies mountains
> which start west of Calgary and extend well into British Colombia.
> But those craxy canuks pay over $ 6 U.S. a gallon for fuel which made
> my trip a painfull experience.Even the food is expensive especially in
> Alberta.

If anyone but YOU were writing, I might sympathize about "craxy canuks"
making your (oops, "you're") experience "painfull". But you're just an
eternally monomaniacal klutz with a single axe to grind, over & over
again.

If you're so bummed off about Alberta, why don't you just STAY AWAY?

[sechumlib]

On 2006-08-07 19:15:31 -0400, "Maxx" > said:

> Holy ****!!!!!!!!! You actually understood what the idiot wrote??????
> You're Goooooood!!!!!!

foolish is more like it

[gel[_2_]]

Edmonton news,Edmonton news....people from all over Canada flocking to
Alberta to buy houses at the price of $300 000 U.S. where the cost of
living has reach new heights .The deregulation of power have made hydro
bills by more than 40 % in one year. The cost of heating have gone up by
60%.
Still the crazy canucks are so desperate to finf work that they go
live in Alberta for jobs averaging $12 an hour where the social life is
a war zone like to say the least.
The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S. a gallon and their is no
end in sight to the climb.
Still the canuks are buying houses at record prices like if Alberta is
the only good place to live in America. The price of food is now equal
to waht you would find in Alaska.
In surveys 90% of the people said that Edmonton is the best place to
live in Canada and they said that it is 1000 times better than any city
in USA.
They explained that is why they often gives more than 20% more than
listing prices of houses.
Pollution is high but all people surveyed blames the highest level of
ashtma and allergies in the country to the use of carpets in homes.
A spokeperson for a company selling laminate floor decalred that
Edmonton is braking record sales of laminate of the entire continent
according to corporate headquarters numbers.
A doctor on the other hand declared that most citizens of Edmonton are
ignorant and just buy into any corporate skims outhere .
A consumers grour advocate mentionned that Edmonton has the highest
level of inflation in North America because of the people themselves
that thinks balck gold brings riches.


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gel wrote:

Blah - Blah - Blah.

Invest in a spell checker, dummy.
Or better yet, have your mommie help you.

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[John Buchan]

And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
Deadmonton.

And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
suspects!!

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:

>Edmonton news,Edmonton news....people from all over Canada flocking to
>Alberta to buy houses at the price of $300 000 U.S. where the cost of
>living has reach new heights .The deregulation of power have made hydro
>bills by more than 40 % in one year. The cost of heating have gone up by
>60%.
> Still the crazy canucks are so desperate to finf work that they go
>live in Alberta for jobs averaging $12 an hour where the social life is
>a war zone like to say the least.
> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S. a gallon and their is no
>end in sight to the climb.
> Still the canuks are buying houses at record prices like if Alberta is
>the only good place to live in America. The price of food is now equal
>to waht you would find in Alaska.
> In surveys 90% of the people said that Edmonton is the best place to
>live in Canada and they said that it is 1000 times better than any city
>in USA.
> They explained that is why they often gives more than 20% more than
>listing prices of houses.
> Pollution is high but all people surveyed blames the highest level of
>ashtma and allergies in the country to the use of carpets in homes.
> A spokeperson for a company selling laminate floor decalred that
>Edmonton is braking record sales of laminate of the entire continent
>according to corporate headquarters numbers.
> A doctor on the other hand declared that most citizens of Edmonton are
>ignorant and just buy into any corporate skims outhere .
> A consumers group advocate mentioned that Edmonton has the highest
>level of inflation in North America because of the people themselves
>that thinks black gold brings riches.

[Mr Frederick]

"John Buchan" > wrote in message
...
> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
> Deadmonton.
>
> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
> suspects!!
>
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>
>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.

No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy store?
The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon that is
$4.34 CDN or $3.85 US

a gallon and their is no
>>end in sight to the climb.
>

[Rudy[_1_]]

> But those craxy canuks pay over $ 6 U.S. a gallon for fuel which made
> my trip a painfull experience

I guess basic "math" is a painful experience for you too, as is spelling

$ 1.189 a liter X 3.78 L (per USGallon)= $ 4.49 gallon Canadian, X .89
(cents) = $ 4.00 US per gallon.
That's not a lot more than they're charging in California.
Next time, stay home half-wit.

[gel[_2_]]

Edmonton news ,August the 9 2006.
A man miraculously survive to tell waht the cops did.

Shooting victim tells tale.

Lawyer says man shot six times by cops,twice while on the ground.

While he was running,he was shot once in each arm and as a
result,fell to the ground.
'' He picked himself up and started running again and he was shot in
the back''
Steele then alleges police kicked him in the ribs and leg while he lay
bleeding on the ground.
''The police gave him orders to tuen over on his back and he
complied.While he was lying on his back in a submissive way,he saw two
bright flashes come from the same location and heard two loud bangs.He
beleives that these could only have come from a firearm''

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[Calif Bill]

"Rudy" > wrote in message
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>> But those craxy canuks pay over $ 6 U.S. a gallon for fuel which made
>> my trip a painfull experience
>
> I guess basic "math" is a painful experience for you too, as is spelling
>
> $ 1.189 a liter X 3.78 L (per USGallon)= $ 4.49 gallon Canadian, X .89
> (cents) = $ 4.00 US per gallon.
> That's not a lot more than they're charging in California.
> Next time, stay home half-wit.
>

But some places in Canada do have $6+ US fuel. Just returned from a drive
to Alaska, and least I paid was $1.019L which is about $3.45 gallon for
diesel. Diesel was cheaper by about 10 cents a liter. Highest I saw was
$1.99L and gas was about $2.12 That made the diesel about $6.53 gallon.
Most I paid was about $1.649, which is still $5.60 gallon. Paid $3.15
gallon in SF bay area 2 days ago.

[gel[_2_]]

Thank you for the numbers.
I laid a trap for Maxx and Sechumlib that always salnders without
giving informations about the subject.

The prices are still higher in Alberta than most states .And Edmonton
and Calgary remains a bad choice for a trip,especially Edmonton.

And to critizise spelling would be more appropriate in a grammar or
else group.Not in a travel newsgroup.

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gel wrote:
> Edmonton news ,August the 9 2006.
> A man miraculously survive to tell waht the cops did.
>
> Shooting victim tells tale.

Hey ****head!!!!
The guy threatened them with a knife, and then stabbed a police dog.
They could have saved bullets if they had just shot him once in the
head. If you're going to report a story, give ALL the details, or have
your mommie help you post a link.

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gel wrote:
> Thank you for the numbers.
> I laid a trap for Maxx and Sechumlib that always salnders without
> giving informations about the subject.

Let me get this straight. Maxx & Sechumlib slander without giving
information??? Are you serious, stinkweed????

You've been slandering for years, and you have yet to post credible
information. do you even KNOW how to post a link?
>
> The prices are still higher in Alberta than most states .And Edmonton
> and Calgary remains a bad choice for a trip,especially Edmonton.

No one is bitching about it, but you.

> And to critizise spelling would be more appropriate in a grammar or
> else group.Not in a travel newsgroup.

That's a load of crap. You're spelling & grammar is so bad that, at
times, no one knows what you're talking about.

Idiot

[sechumlib]

On 2006-08-09 20:18:23 -0400, gel > said:

> Thank you for the numbers.
> I laid a trap for Maxx and Sechumlib that always salnders without
> giving informations about the subject.

Well, thank you! I feel very flattered that I'm considered important
enough to lay a trap for. Did I fall in?

> The prices are still higher in Alberta than most states .And Edmonton
> and Calgary remains a bad choice for a trip,especially Edmonton.

Oh, yea. NO ONE in his/her right mind should go to either place. Why? I
don't have a clue.

> And to critizise spelling would be more appropriate in a grammar or
> else group.Not in a travel newsgroup.

Sure. Might as well be illiterate everywhere else. Do you do that in
your job too?

Or do you have a job?

"Don't want no war,
Don't want no war,
Don't want no war,
Don't want no JOB, neither."

[sechumlib]

On 2006-08-09 20:42:27 -0400, "Maxx" > said:

>
> gel wrote:
>> Thank you for the numbers.
>> I laid a trap for Maxx and Sechumlib that always salnders without
>> giving informations about the subject.
>
> Let me get this straight. Maxx & Sechumlib slander without giving
> information??? Are you serious, stinkweed????

NO, NO! We don't slander. We salnder! And we do it very well, too.

[Maxx]

sechumlib wrote:
> On 2006-08-09 20:42:27 -0400, "Maxx" > said:
>
> >
> > gel wrote:
> >> Thank you for the numbers.
> >> I laid a trap for Maxx and Sechumlib that always salnders without
> >> giving informations about the subject.
> >
> > Let me get this straight. Maxx & Sechumlib slander without giving
> > information??? Are you serious, stinkweed????
>
> NO, NO! We don't slander. We salnder! And we do it very well, too.

Oh well. School starts soon. Maybe he'll decide to go this year.

[Bob Barnett]

WyattEarp wrote:

> There is no evidence that he threatened any person, just a mutt!!

Anyone that threatens a pet deserves a bullet

[sharx35]

"Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
...
> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>> Deadmonton.
>>
>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>> suspects!!
>>
>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>
>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>
> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US

Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.? Surely,
in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we shouldn't HAVE
to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice, that is.


>
> a gallon and their is no
>>>end in sight to the climb.
>>
>
>

[Maxx]

Bob Barnett wrote:
> WyattEarp wrote:
>
> > There is no evidence that he threatened any person, just a mutt!!
>
> Anyone that threatens a pet deserves a bullet

Threatening or attacking a Police Dog is a little more serious than
trying to kick old Aunt Bessie's Coon Hound.

[Determinator]

sharx35 wrote:
> "Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>> Deadmonton.
>>>
>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>> suspects!!
>>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>
> Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.? Surely,
> in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we shouldn't HAVE
> to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice, that is.

Ya might want to check that.. I caught a piece about US gas being over
$3.20 /Gallon (US) in some places

[sharx35]

"Determinator" > wrote in message
news:ZkUCg.1576$Nz6.287@edtnps82...
> sharx35 wrote:
>> "Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>
>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>> suspects!!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>
>> Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.?
>> Surely, in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we
>> shouldn't HAVE to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any
>> justice, that is.
>
> Ya might want to check that.. I caught a piece about US gas being over
> $3.20 /Gallon (US) in some places

In SOME places, yeah, like California or Hawaii, perhaps. I was thinking
along the lines of the average or mean U.S. pricce.

[Alohacyberian]

"WyattEarp" > wrote in message
...
> On 9 Aug 2006 17:34:03 -0700, "The Dept. of I don't give a crap."
> > wrote:
>>gel wrote:
>>> Edmonton news ,August the 9 2006.
>>> A man miraculously survive to tell waht the cops did.
>
>>> Shooting victim tells tale.
>
>>Hey ****head!!!!
>>The guy threatened them with a knife, and then stabbed a police dog.
>>They could have saved bullets if they had just shot him once in the
>>head. If you're going to report a story, give ALL the details, or have
>>your mommie help you post a link.
>
> He was shot 6 times, in the back, and also while on the ground, by the
> crooked Edmonton cops.
>

It appears than when visiting Edmonton, or even living there, it's a good
idea to obey the law. KM
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"Bob Barnett" > wrote in message
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> WyattEarp wrote:
>
>> There is no evidence that he threatened any person, just a mutt!!
>
> Anyone that threatens a pet deserves a bullet
>
Just one? ;-) KM
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"Determinator" > wrote in message
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> sharx35 wrote:
>> "Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>
>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>> suspects!!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>
>> Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.?
>> Surely, in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we
>> shouldn't HAVE to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any
>> justice, that is.
>
> Ya might want to check that.. I caught a piece about US gas being over
> $3.20 /Gallon (US) in some places
>
Well, last time I filled up, it was US $3.50 per gallon which is usually
about the same as San Francisco and San Diego. KM
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[Harry]

$6 per gallon is CHEAP!! In the UK we're paying nearly $9 per gallon.
The average price of a house is around $400,000 House prices are
rising @ around 6% per year. We have a domestic debt of almost
$2,000,000,000,000. We have 1.5M muslims.


gel wrote:
> i guess it is better to avoid to travel to Alberta just to see a flat
> land.
> I made it to Edmonton only to drive of bad streets that made my car
> feel like a boxcart .To only big attraction in Edmonton is refineries,
>
> The only good part of the trip was to drive thru the rockies mountains
> which start west of Calgary and extend well into British Colombia.
> But those craxy canuks pay over $ 6 U.S. a gallon for fuel which made
> my trip a painfull experience.Even the food is expensive especially in
> Alberta.
>
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[Maxx]

Harry wrote:
> $6 per gallon is CHEAP!! In the UK we're paying nearly $9 per gallon.
> The average price of a house is around $400,000 House prices are
> rising @ around 6% per year. We have a domestic debt of almost
> $2,000,000,000,000. We have 1.5M muslims.

Which proves once more that everyone has problems, and the Edmonton
whiners are just a bunch of sissies.

[gel[_2_]]

The price of a barrel of oil went down $2.
You would think the price at the pump would go down but i think the oil
companies are too greedy and they do not have any respect for the
average citizens.


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[gel[_2_]]

He did not threatened the cops with a knife. That is a lie and
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[gel[_2_]]

And the price at the pump is hurting the lower and middle class the
most.
Alberta has the lowest provincial fuel tax in Canada and is major
world
oil producer.
Anyone visiting Edmonton can see the major refineries. And many people
reports asthma or respitory problems that are probably caused by the
emissions of the refineries.
I agree with you the price of fuel in Alberta should be lower .
But i do not foresee the day when the oil companies would stop aiming
at
record profit.
Their is a lot of frustration in the working class. The price of fuel
is eroding the social fabric which create an " in fight" within the
working class creating a mentality of fighting for the buck.
Would their be a catastrophy in Canada.Let's say a earthquake in
British Colombia probably the oil companies would jump on that excuse to
substantially raise the price of fuel at the pump.
Really shows an extreme exploitation and a disrecpect of the working
people.
I think most people would agree. The working class (including small
business owners) are the foundation of North America.
And the oil companies are damaging beyond repairs a large portion of
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[Maxx]

gel wrote:
> He did not threatened the cops with a knife. That is a lie and
> misinformation.
>

So now you say the Edmonton Journal reports lies and misinformation?
You're a confused little guy, aren't you.

[gel[_2_]]

Wow! i heard about the cost of living in England being very high.
Your posting is confirmation.
The old saying stand '' you can always find worst places''
Thank You for your informations.

P.S. Although i have no prejudice against Muslim.I do not agree with
that part.
Thank you for the cost of living information.

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[gel[_2_]]

Why are acting like a bad cop?
Facts : Steele never threatened anyone with a knife.

And let's face it .The edmonton cop tried to kill the guy so he would
not be able to tell what happened.
You must be an Edmonton cop and a bad one .
According to you anyone holding a knife threatened someone and should
be shot dead by the Edmonton cops.
You are saying that the cops are in duty to kill.
I am sorry their oath is to protect life of citizens.
Of course in Edmonton it might be very different because the mayor is
Jewish?
And Ya!make us beleive that a guy lunged at by a german shepard is a
threat or that after running and shot and lying on the groung he is
still a threat to armed cops.
Why don't you tell us why are so many people talking against Edmonton?

You are going to respond with slanders and no infos.????


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"gel" > wrote in message
...
> The price of a barrel of oil went down $2.
> You would think the price at the pump would go down but i think the oil
> companies are too greedy and they do not have any respect for the
> average citizens.
>
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so buy oil company stock.

[Maxx]

gel wrote:

> According to you anyone holding a knife threatened someone and should
> be shot dead by the Edmonton cops.

Yes. Any person threatening someone with a knife can be shot.

> You are saying that the cops are in duty to kill.

If they are threatened with a weapon, Yes.

> I am sorry their oath is to protect life of citizens.

By eliminating the criminals.

> Of course in Edmonton it might be very different because the mayor is
> Jewish?

Are we becoming racist now?

> And Ya!make us beleive that a guy lunged at by a german shepard is a
> threat or that after running and shot and lying on the groung he is
> still a threat to armed cops.

Attacking a police dog is a serious offense. Even if he is wounded,
and laying on the ground, he can still be shot again, if he still has
the knife, and is threatening.

> Why don't you tell us why are so many people talking against Edmonton?

I see only 3 people talking against Edmonton. You, top poster, and
your troll with a hundred identities. ( He goes by Wyatt Earp now.)

> You are going to respond with slanders and no infos.????

Why are you trying to protect the criminals?

[Maxx]

"gel" > wrote in message
...
> Wow! i heard about the cost of living in England being very high.
> Your posting is confirmation.

> The old saying stand '' you can always find worst places''
> Thank You for your informations.

Yes, you can ALWAYS find worse places. So stop whining.

[gel[_2_]]

you fit the Edmonton Police bad gangs motto '' To
harass,vigilante,destroy life, and kill''

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[gel[_2_]]

I am reporting facts.

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[gel[_2_]]

Criminals are to be brought alive and properly charge.
Any cops harassing or wannabe vigilanties or destroying lives are to
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[Maxx]

"gel" > wrote in message
...
> you fit the Edmonton Police bad gangs motto '' To
> harass,vigilante,destroy life, and kill''

What? No comments on what I said? You complain about me insulting you, so
I answer your comments, and you come back with an insult. You've proven
that you don't know what you're talking about. You only care that the
criminal get's away.

[Maxx]

"gel" > wrote in message
...

>I am reporting facts.

And I say you're NOT.

[Alohacyberian]

"gel" > wrote in message
...
>I am reporting facts.
>

Uh, no, you're not "reporting", you're propagandizing and facts are the
farthest thing from your mind. But, you're lucky. Now that you have
established yourself as a fanatic, no rational person will take your remarks
seriously. All you'll attract is the lunatic fringe, though admittedly,
misery loves company. KM

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
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[Harry]

Further to previous posting: Houses are so expensive in the UK now that
young people have the greatest difficulty in affording one. Often they
have to live with their parents until they're in their thirties. Their
only hope in many cases is for financial assisance from their parents.
More than half one's income can go on mortgage repayments. Renting a
house costs even more. All this is put down to:-
Single person occupancy, virtually unknown ten or fifteen years ago.
Second home (holiday home) ownership.
Simple running out of space, water and everything else, we're only a
small island
Immigration. We have a flood of immigrants from just about everywhere.
Most of them are useless. However if you're from the USA or Australia
with useful qualifications you'll have a devil of a job to get in here!
*****************************

Alohacyberian wrote:
> "Determinator" > wrote in message
> news:ZkUCg.1576$Nz6.287@edtnps82...
> > sharx35 wrote:
> >> "Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
> >>>> Deadmonton.
> >>>>
> >>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
> >>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
> >>>> suspects!!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
> >>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
> >>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
> >>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
> >>
> >> Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.?
> >> Surely, in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we
> >> shouldn't HAVE to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any
> >> justice, that is.
> >
> > Ya might want to check that.. I caught a piece about US gas being over
> > $3.20 /Gallon (US) in some places
> >
> Well, last time I filled up, it was US $3.50 per gallon which is usually
> about the same as San Francisco and San Diego. KM
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[Maxx]

gel wrote:
> Your website is only novelties.

The man tells you that your posting habits are questionable, and the
only thing you have for a come back is to insult his web site.

How lame!!!!

[Alohacyberian]

"Harry" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Further to previous posting: Houses are so expensive in the UK now that
> young people have the greatest difficulty in affording one. Often they
> have to live with their parents until they're in their thirties. Their
> only hope in many cases is for financial assisance from their parents.
> More than half one's income can go on mortgage repayments. Renting a
> house costs even more. All this is put down to:-
> Single person occupancy, virtually unknown ten or fifteen years ago.
> Second home (holiday home) ownership.
> Simple running out of space, water and everything else, we're only a
> small island
> Immigration. We have a flood of immigrants from just about everywhere.
> Most of them are useless. However if you're from the USA or Australia
> with useful qualifications you'll have a devil of a job to get in here!
> *****************************
>
Yes, it's getting to be that way in many parts of the United States, though
there is very little land in the U.S. that is leasehold, except in Hawaii.
KM
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"gel" > wrote in message
...
> Your website is only novelties.
>

Why, thank you. What is your website? Don't tell me, bashing Edmonton!
;-) KM
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[Alohacyberian]

"Maxx" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> gel wrote:
>> Your website is only novelties.
>
> The man tells you that your posting habits are questionable, and the
> only thing you have for a come back is to insult his web site.
>
> How lame!!!!
>
Well, that's par for the course. If you can't refute the message, by all
means, either change the subject or attack the messenger, though both is
preferred. ;-) Perhaps, I should add a webpage in praise of Edmonton. KM
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[Maxx]

Alohacyberian wrote:
> "Maxx" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > gel wrote:
> >> Your website is only novelties.
> >
> > The man tells you that your posting habits are questionable, and the
> > only thing you have for a come back is to insult his web site.
> >
> > How lame!!!!
> >
> Well, that's par for the course. If you can't refute the message, by all
> means, either change the subject or attack the messenger, though both is
> preferred. ;-) Perhaps, I should add a webpage in praise of Edmonton. KM

Seriously, I travel to Edmonton quite a bit on business. It's no
different from any other city its size. They are having problems, but
nowhere near the way these lunatics are distorting it. Mind your own
business, obey the law, and you will have a pleasant trip.

It's obvious that these couple of goobers have had some kind of run in
with the law. They didn't like getting their pee-pees slapped.

[Maxx]

Alohacyberian wrote:
> "gel" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Your website is only novelties.
> >
>
> Why, thank you. What is your website? Don't tell me, bashing Edmonton!
> ;-) KM

No one will ever find his website. He spelled it wrong.

[TopPoster.[_1_]]

You are given a lease of 99 years on the land then you put up a building, it
is being done in Edmonton

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"Sew" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:32:58 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Harry" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >> Further to previous posting: Houses are so expensive in the UK now that
> >> young people have the greatest difficulty in affording one. Often they
> >> have to live with their parents until they're in their thirties. Their
> >> only hope in many cases is for financial assisance from their parents.
> >> More than half one's income can go on mortgage repayments. Renting a
> >> house costs even more. All this is put down to:-
> >> Single person occupancy, virtually unknown ten or fifteen years ago.
> >> Second home (holiday home) ownership.
> >> Simple running out of space, water and everything else, we're only a
> >> small island
> >> Immigration. We have a flood of immigrants from just about everywhere.
> >> Most of them are useless. However if you're from the USA or Australia
> >> with useful qualifications you'll have a devil of a job to get in here!
> >> *****************************
> >>
> >Yes, it's getting to be that way in many parts of the United States,
though
> >there is very little land in the U.S. that is leasehold, except in
Hawaii.
>
> What exactly is leasehold please?
>
> >KM

[Frank F. Matthews]

Sew wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:32:58 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>"Harry" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>>
>>>Further to previous posting: Houses are so expensive in the UK now that
>>>young people have the greatest difficulty in affording one. Often they
>>>have to live with their parents until they're in their thirties. Their
>>>only hope in many cases is for financial assisance from their parents.
>>>More than half one's income can go on mortgage repayments. Renting a
>>>house costs even more. All this is put down to:-
>>>Single person occupancy, virtually unknown ten or fifteen years ago.
>>>Second home (holiday home) ownership.
>>>Simple running out of space, water and everything else, we're only a
>>>small island
>>>Immigration. We have a flood of immigrants from just about everywhere.
>>>Most of them are useless. However if you're from the USA or Australia
>>>with useful qualifications you'll have a devil of a job to get in here!
>>>*****************************
>>>
>>
>>Yes, it's getting to be that way in many parts of the United States, though
>>there is very little land in the U.S. that is leasehold, except in Hawaii.
>
>
> What exactly is leasehold please?
>
>
>>KM

Not quite exactly someone else owns the land which you have the right to
use for a given period of time. commonly centuries, for a payment. You
own the building(s) on the property. The right to use the property is
transferable.

[TopPoster.[_1_]]

At the moment it is not used in housing in Edmonton

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"Sew" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:38:53 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >Not quite exactly someone else owns the land which you have the right to
> >use for a given period of time. commonly centuries, for a payment. You
> >own the building(s) on the property. The right to use the property is
> >transferable.
>
> Thank you. How common is this in Edmonton?
>

[Alohacyberian]

"Sew" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:38:53 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
> > wrote:
>
>>Not quite exactly someone else owns the land which you have the right to
>>use for a given period of time. commonly centuries, for a payment. You
>>own the building(s) on the property. The right to use the property is
>>transferable.
>
> Thank you. How common is this in Edmonton?
>
Leasehold is not common in the United States (except Hawaii) and Canada,
but, is common in the U.K. where the remnants of the landed aristocracy
still own the land, but, in order to pay the property taxes, they lease the
land to others so that they can draw income from the land as well as pay the
taxes on it, which are usually passed on to the people who erect buildings
and businesses on the land. KM
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[sharx35]

"Sew" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:29:13 GMT, "sharx35" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
...
>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>
>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>> suspects!!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>>
>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>
>>Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.? Surely,
>>in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we shouldn't
>>HAVE
>>to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice, that
>>is.
>
> Gas prices in Toronto last week was 99 cents a litre, gas prices in
> New Brunswick was 1.17, the same price it was when I flew out there
> last week. This with a harmonized tax no less.

I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas tax
in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far, in
Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher provincial
tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly CHEAPER than in
Edmonton.



>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> a gallon and their is no
>>>>>end in sight to the climb.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

[sharx35]

"Sew" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:32:43 -0600, "TopPoster."
> ,_> wrote:
>
>>You are given a lease of 99 years on the land then you put up a building,
>>it
>>is being done in Edmonton
>
> hmmm they had this in Banff many, many years ago but where would they
> use it in Edmonton? Does this mean that someone owns the land but
> rents it to a builder and the builder then rents it to someone else?

They still have long leases in Banff and in Jasper National Parks. I do
believe that private ownership of land in the national parks is outlawed. Is
it possible that there is a "grandfather" clause, allowing SOME old private
titles to exist?



>
>

[Mr Frederick]

"sharx35" > wrote in message
news:05cFg.6881$395.2625@edtnps90...
>
> "Sew" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:29:13 GMT, "sharx35" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>>> suspects!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>>>
>>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>>
>>>Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.?
>>>Surely,
>>>in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we shouldn't
>>>HAVE
>>>to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice, that
>>>is.
>>
>> Gas prices in Toronto last week was 99 cents a litre, gas prices in
>> New Brunswick was 1.17, the same price it was when I flew out there
>> last week. This with a harmonized tax no less.
>
> I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
> what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas
> tax in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far,
> in Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher
> provincial tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly
> CHEAPER than in Edmonton.
>
Haven't you heard? Toronto is the centre of the universe. Just ask anybody
from Toronto, and they will tell you.
>

[Determinator]

sharx35 wrote:
> "Sew" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:29:13 GMT, "sharx35" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked cops
>>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>>> suspects!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army & Navy
>>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US gallon
>>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>> Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.? Surely,
>>> in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we shouldn't
>>> HAVE
>>> to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice, that
>>> is.
>> Gas prices in Toronto last week was 99 cents a litre, gas prices in
>> New Brunswick was 1.17, the same price it was when I flew out there
>> last week. This with a harmonized tax no less.
>
> I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
> what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas tax
> in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far, in
> Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher provincial
> tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly CHEAPER than in
> Edmonton.
>
>

"free market economy"

[gel[_2_]]

"sharx35" wrote:
>"Sew" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:29:13 GMT, "sharx35" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mr Frederick" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "John Buchan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> And do not forget to mention the skyrocketing MURDER rate in
>>>>> Deadmonton.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, all the torturing and other croimes committed by the crooked
cops
>>>>> of Edmonton - which includes SHOOTING IN THE BACK of alleged
>>>>> suspects!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:36 -0500, gel >
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The price of fuel has just reach over $6 U.S.
>>>>
>>>> No it hasn't. Jesus, where did you get your diploma, the Army &
Navy
>>>> store? The highest price on Edmontongasprices is $114.9. Per US
gallon
>>>> that is $4.34 CDN or $3.85 US
>>>
>>>Agreed, however isn't it still UNDER $3 U.S.$ in much of the U.S.?
Surely,
>>>in Alberta, with the LOWEST provincial fuel tax in Canada, we
shouldn't
>>>HAVE
>>>to pay more than the AVERAGE U.S. price? If there were any justice,
that
>>>is.
>>
>> Gas prices in Toronto last week was 99 cents a litre, gas prices in
>> New Brunswick was 1.17, the same price it was when I flew out there
>> last week. This with a harmonized tax no less.
>
>I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton,
with,
>what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas
tax
>in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far, in
>Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher
provincial
>tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly CHEAPER than
in
>Edmonton.
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> a gallon and their is no
>>>>>>end in sight to the climb.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

It is because Alberta is a extreme right wing province .Alberta is now a
leader in inflation and cost of living.
The deregulation of electricity has seen the price of electricity raise
more than 40 % in the last two years.
The high price of gazoline in Edmonton is well protected by the big
wigs of Alberta.

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[Alohacyberian]

"sharx35" > wrote in message
news:05cFg.6881$395.2625@edtnps90...
>
> I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
> what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas
> tax in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far,
> in Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher
> provincial tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly
> CHEAPER than in Edmonton.
>

It's a conspiracy hatched by the police in Edmonton. KM
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[Maxx]

"Alohacyberian" > wrote in message
...
> "sharx35" > wrote in message
> news:05cFg.6881$395.2625@edtnps90...
>>
>> I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
>> what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas
>> tax in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far,
>> in Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher
>> provincial tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly
>> CHEAPER than in Edmonton.
>>
>
> It's a conspiracy hatched by the police in Edmonton. KM


yeah - They tasered the gazolines.


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>

[Determinator]

Sew wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:40:05 GMT, Determinator >
> wrote:
>
>> "free market economy"
>
> Nope. Greed of politicians and taxes. IMAGINE IF YOU WILL, how much
> MORE taxpayers WOULD BE PAYING if Alberta had a sales tax on gas yet?
> In this regard I feel it is already built in and that we, as consumers
> are being gouged to death in Alberta. Gas tax pays for health care
> perhaps?

i fail to understand how we are gouged when we pay the least taxes of
any province.

[Determinator]

Sew wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:18:52 GMT, "sharx35" >
> wrote:
>
>> I just DO NOT understand and WILL NOT understand why, in Edmonton, with,
>> what, THREE world class refineries nearby and the LOWEST provincial gas tax
>> in Canada, why gas prices are NOT, consistently, the LOWEST, by far, in
>> Canada. Meanwhile, in Ontario, with higher fuel taxes, higher provincial
>> tax, aging refineries, etc etc...gasoline is consistencly CHEAPER than in
>> Edmonton.
>
> Here is why or at least I may know. Having been in the field
> construction area for well over 16 years we discovered that everywhere
> we went AFTER a job was started the COST OF LIVING skyrocketed. You
> see, everyone wants to get their share of ALL THE MONEY that
> construction used to bring with all the personnal that is usually
> needed to construct huge projects. After we all left in most cases,
> prices dropped like a rock in all respects. THAT is why people had
> better be careful if this is the case because of Fort McMurray. It
> will now all be in the timing of when people buy and what they buy.
> Of course this does not explain WHY we have had to pay such high
> prices BEFORE Fort McMurray and the NEW WORLD PRICING **** became the
> norm.



Free market economy

[gel[_2_]]

free exploitation market. Free gouging market you mean.

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[gel[_2_]]

Na gouging supporter.

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[sechumlib]

On 2006-09-10 13:18:51 -0400, gel > said:

> Na gouging supporter.

Which means WHAT?

[TopPoster[_2_]]

sechumlib wrote:
> On 2006-09-10 13:18:51 -0400, gel > said:
>
> > Na gouging supporter.
>
> Which means WHAT?

Which means the idiot is trying to keep this thread alive.

[sechumlib]

On 2006-09-11 16:18:30 -0400, "TopPoster" > said:

>
> sechumlib wrote:
>> On 2006-09-10 13:18:51 -0400, gel > said:
>>
>>> Na gouging supporter.
>>
>> Which means WHAT?
>
> Which means the idiot is trying to keep this thread alive.

Actually, I guess he means "sodium-gouging" (whatever THAT means!).
"Na" is the chemical symbol for sodium.

[gel[_2_]]

Edmonton is the capital of gouging. Calgary is home of the little mafia
that prorects gouging.

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