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Meghan Powers
September 18th, 2003, 04:04 AM
[491 days to regime change in the US and counting.]

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Billionaire mounting anti-Bush effort
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RESTON, Va., Sept. 17 (UPI) -- Billionaire George Soros reportedly is
putting together a $10 million warchest to prevent U.S. President
George Bush from winning a second term.

Soros, who in 1992 made $1 billion in a single day through currency
speculation that drove down the British pound, along with a group of
philanthropists and trade unions, is mounting a campaign to unseat
Bush for what he sees as the administration's misuse of power,
Canada's National Post reported.

"You passed the U.S.A. Patriot Act without proper discussion," Soros
said in a recent interview with PBS. "Anyone who opposed it was
accused of giving aid and comfort to the terrorists. I think we've
gone off the rail in this country. Lawmakers didn't even get a copy of
the bill. They couldn't even read it before it was passed."

The Hungarian-born Soros is estimated to be worth $5 billion and has
been involved in philanthropic activities -- largely in Eastern Europe
-- since 1979.

Jerry Johnson
September 18th, 2003, 05:01 PM
> RESTON, Va., Sept. 17 (UPI) -- Billionaire George Soros reportedly is
> putting together a $10 million warchest to prevent U.S. President
> George Bush from winning a second term.

Evidently the screams from the political left for campaign finance reform
don't apply in this instance. Not that the Democrat candidate who occupies
the Whithouse beginning in January of '05 will find himself beholding to
George Soros. (Who immigrated from a socialist country to the USA because
he could not make money in his native country).

W will lose in 2004. But it will be media and not money which decides that
election. Need some examples? When was the last time you saw or read a report
which was positive -- or even neutral -- regarding the occupation of Iraq?

Happen to read any article which does not place the blame on the outcome of
the 2000 presidentail election on the Supreme Court? Even though an all
liberal Florida Supreme Court caused the fray by deciding to ignore the
election laws as specified in that states' constitution. The media has never
accused the Florida Supreme Court of political influence in their decision
making.

W may as well start packing. I only hope that the dems come up with a
reasonable moderate as their candidate. By now even the likes of Hillary
and Ted should realize that socialism can never be anything but a failure.

me
September 19th, 2003, 12:59 PM
(Jerry Johnson) wrote in message >...
[snip]
> Happen to read any article which does not place the blame on the outcome of
> the 2000 presidentail election on the Supreme Court? Even though an all
> liberal Florida Supreme Court caused the fray by deciding to ignore the
> election laws as specified in that states' constitution.

As bad as the decisions the Florida Courts were (and they were
bad), there was some sympathy for them locally because the election
laws were a mess. However, none of the decisions basically said
"Bush won". They just said "start counting". The USSC got the
reputation they got because the jist of their decision was "stop
counting, times up, Bush won by default". The USSC had a chance
and at least one of their won members tried to persuade them,
to stay out of the whole mess. They didn't HAVE to take the case.
There was an historical tradition to NOT get involved in election
disputes (states run elections and it was seen as a state issue).
Yet they chose to take up the case. That's why they continue to
"take the blame".


> The media has never
> accused the Florida Supreme Court of political influence in their decision
> making.

Actually, they did, extensively. However, it became yesterdays news,
when the USSC rendered their decision. The USSC took away responsibility
from the state court when they decided to overturn their ruling.

Manuel Freitas
September 19th, 2003, 06:55 PM
(Jerry Johnson) wrote in message >...
> > RESTON, Va., Sept. 17 (UPI) -- Billionaire George Soros reportedly is
> > putting together a $10 million warchest to prevent U.S. President
> > George Bush from winning a second term.
>
> Evidently the screams from the political left for campaign finance reform
> don't apply in this instance. Not that the Democrat candidate who occupies
> the Whithouse beginning in January of '05 will find himself beholding to
> George Soros. (Who immigrated from a socialist country to the USA because
> he could not make money in his native country).
>
> W will lose in 2004. But it will be media and not money which decides that
> election. Need some examples? When was the last time you saw or read a report
> which was positive -- or even neutral -- regarding the occupation of Iraq?

What's positive about the occupation of Iraq? Heck, what's positive
about foreign occupation of any country against all rules?
On the other hand, when was the last time you saw images of dead
American soldiers in Iraq on American television? Never, 'cause that
wouldn't help the warmongers cause. The idea that there is any liberal
media in this country is just pathetic.

- Manuel.

Casey
September 19th, 2003, 10:10 PM
> "You passed the U.S.A. Patriot Act without proper discussion," Soros
> said in a recent interview with PBS. "Anyone who opposed it was
> accused of giving aid and comfort to the terrorists. I think we've
> gone off the rail in this country. Lawmakers didn't even get a copy of
> the bill. They couldn't even read it before it was passed."

Even though the original post is completely off-topic for this NG ...
Voters should throw out every congresscritter that voted for the
Patriot Act. Anyone with integrity would have voted against a
bill that their fearless leaders gave them with no time to read, let
alone properly debate.


Casey

Meghan Powers
September 20th, 2003, 02:11 AM
Casey wrote:
>
> Voters should throw out every congresscritter that voted for the
> Patriot Act. Anyone with integrity would have voted against a
> bill that their fearless leaders gave them with no time to read,
> let alone properly debate.

I have heard that Gore Vidal has commented on the suspicous nature of
the bill itself. A 400 page document prepared within 2 weeks of
9-11? Some suspect it had to have been in the works well before 9-11.

Casey
September 20th, 2003, 04:51 AM
> > Voters should throw out every congresscritter that voted for the
> > Patriot Act. Anyone with integrity would have voted against a
> > bill that their fearless leaders gave them with no time to read,
> > let alone properly debate.
>
> I have heard that Gore Vidal has commented on the suspicous
> nature of the bill itself. A 400 page document prepared within 2
> weeks of 9-11? Some suspect it had to have been in the works
> well before 9-11.

I suspect there is some truth to that, but having seen Vidal on TV
recently, he strikes me as the liberal equivalent to the people
worrying about black helicopters while wearing aluminum foil hats.
Remember that there are fringe groups in the federal bureaucracy
on both sides of the Congressional aisle just champing at the bit
to implement their fascist/communist/whatever policies. Wolfowitz,
#2 man in the DOD and the primary cheerleader for the Iraq war,
had wanted to invade Iraq ever since Bush I. This was well
documented in the PBS Frontline show a few months back.


Casey