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Erilar November 5th, 2014 08:15 PM

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The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

S Viemeister[_2_] November 5th, 2014 10:12 PM

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On 11/5/2014 3:15 PM, Erilar wrote:
The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

I understand that desire.

poldy November 6th, 2014 01:38 AM

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In article ,
Erilar wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.


I don't know about Germany.

Merkel is trying to deliver a balanced budget, probably leading to a
recession, because they care more about the budget than building/fixing
needed infrastructure to stimulate the economy.

Germans are preventing the ECB from easing, which would help the entire
EU, because they don't like the idea of helping the latin nations.

One pundit calls Merkel the Herbert Hoover of Europe.

But others have said she recognizes the need for stimulus and easing
monetary policy but her hands are tied because of the German electorate.

Alfred Molon[_6_] November 6th, 2014 05:52 PM

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In article ,
poldy says...
Germans are preventing the ECB from easing, which would help the entire
EU, because they don't like the idea of helping the latin nations.


Feel free to donate your savings to the latin nations :-)

BTW, Cameron is refusing to pay the 2 billion the UK owes the EU.
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Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

poldy November 6th, 2014 06:18 PM

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In article ,
Martin wrote:

Germans are preventing the ECB from easing, which would help the entire
EU, because they don't like the idea of helping the latin nations.


She rightly doesn't like Germany being the main payer in the EU. The only
payer
other than NL, if UK leaves the EU.


One pundit calls Merkel the Herbert Hoover of Europe.

But others have said she recognizes the need for stimulus and easing
monetary policy but her hands are tied because of the German electorate.


Yet the Germans don't mind selling them their cars and other export
items.

Or lending them money with their banks.

They imposed austerity so that the PIIGS can't default on those loans
and screw over the German banks.

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) November 6th, 2014 07:18 PM

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Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.


Only because you don't live in Germany.


That's probably true - I've read about neo-nazis being on the increase.
(Although the sheer triumph of the wealthy 1% over us ordinary
middle-class Americans is hardly encouraging, here.)

Frank Hucklenbroich November 7th, 2014 07:48 AM

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Am Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:18:32 -0700 schrieb EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):

Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.


Only because you don't live in Germany.


That's probably true - I've read about neo-nazis being on the increase.


But not really in politics. The few extreme right-wing parties never score
more than around 2% at elections (except for some local elections in the
east of the country, were they sometimes score more).

There are some Neo-Nazis though when it comes down to football-hooligans.
But that is not only a German problem, you'll find that in Italy, England
and Holland as well.

Regards,

Frank

Tom P[_6_] November 7th, 2014 04:29 PM

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On 07.11.2014 10:50, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:18:32 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:



Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

Only because you don't live in Germany.


That's probably true - I've read about neo-nazis being on the increase.


Not forgetting all the petty local officialdom.


What kind of petty local officialdom are you thinking of? I find the
local officials to be extremely fast and efficient. I got a certificate
of life last week in two minutes flat, plus one minute to find a parking
spot near the office.


(Although the sheer triumph of the wealthy 1% over us ordinary
middle-class Americans is hardly encouraging, here.)



tim..... November 7th, 2014 07:27 PM

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"Tom P" wrote in message
...
On 07.11.2014 10:50, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:18:32 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:



Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany.
Politics
strike me as more rational there.

Only because you don't live in Germany.

That's probably true - I've read about neo-nazis being on the increase.


Not forgetting all the petty local officialdom.


What kind of petty local officialdom are you thinking of? I find the
local officials to be extremely fast and efficient. I got a certificate of
life last week in two minutes flat,


It's gotten a lot better since they were told (along with several other EU
countries) that they had to stop treating other EU nationals registering to
"live" the same way that they treat the Turks

tim




tim..... November 7th, 2014 07:30 PM

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"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
poldy says...
Germans are preventing the ECB from easing, which would help the entire
EU, because they don't like the idea of helping the latin nations.


Feel free to donate your savings to the latin nations :-)

BTW, Cameron is refusing to pay the 2 billion the UK owes the EU.


he's just blustering for the UK press

tim





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