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Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

tim

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tim (in Sweden) wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

Probably would be some, and I've been on a few easyjet flights with no
young kids!

Wasn't it you that was enthusing about his cheap hotels without windows?
Well, out of curiosity, I've booked one for next week in London. The
remote to operate the "large screen" TV in the room is apparently £5.
Forget that, I think I'll just get up to some after-work imbibing. I'll
post back, if I've anything interesting to say about it. The hotel, not
the drinks... :)

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:28:58 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

Wasn't it you that was enthusing about his cheap hotels without windows?
Well, out of curiosity, I've booked one for next week in London. The
remote to operate the "large screen" TV in the room is apparently £5.

How much did you pay, looking for a month away it appears to be about
45 quid a night?

As a comparison I booked a Zone 5 travellodge 10 days away for 26 quid
and 6 weeks away for 10 quid, sure it's zone 5, but that's only 30
minutes and a travel card from waterloo and car-parking is free. You
also get a TV, coffee stuff, and a sofa...

Jim.

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Jim Ley wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:28:58 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

Wasn't it you that was enthusing about his cheap hotels without windows?
Well, out of curiosity, I've booked one for next week in London. The
remote to operate the "large screen" TV in the room is apparently £5.

How much did you pay, looking for a month away it appears to be about
45 quid a night?

£40

As a comparison I booked a Zone 5 travellodge 10 days away for 26 quid
and 6 weeks away for 10 quid, sure it's zone 5, but that's only 30
minutes and a travel card from waterloo and car-parking is free. You
also get a TV, coffee stuff, and a sofa...

I always go with the travellodge when I can at £26, and I've stayed a
few times recently at the one near London Liverpool Street for that
price. There was simply nothing available that night- and I thought it
would be interesting to try Easyhotel.

I agree that travellodge is a better option if you get the £26 deal.

Why do you stay in London hotels? I thought you lived there! :)

--
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:48:00 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

Why do you stay in London hotels? I thought you lived there! :)

I've been homeless for a few months now, begging sofas off people and
the occasional (well more than occasional actually) nights in London
hotels or on peoples sofa.

Jim.

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tim (in Sweden) wrote:
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

Me neither.

I could never understand why everyone was always in such a hurry to get
on the plane when, no matter when you get on, you reach your
destination at the same time. It's not that airport lounges are the
nicest places in the world, but I'd much rather be there than standing
in line, waiting to get crammed into the plane.

I know that there is stiff competition for space to stow your carryons
overhead, but unless you've got a bulkhead seat why not just put it on
the floor?

(Silly question from me: shouldn't bulkhead seats be guaranteed some
kind of space for carry-ons?)

And everybody standing (well, crouching if you're not in an aisle) up
as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off... never got that either. Gees,
it's not like the airplane's on fire or anything.

Tim.

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tim (in Sweden) wrote:
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

Me neither.

I could never understand why everyone was always in such a hurry to get
on the plane when, no matter when you get on, you reach your
destination at the same time. It's not that airport lounges are the
nicest places in the world, but I'd much rather be there than standing
in line, waiting to get crammed into the plane.

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the bus
that is going to take them to the plane too .
This makes a mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me. With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle stampede.

It´s even funnier at disembarking, they way the sheep stand up and bend
their neck in a strange contortion as they rush to get their belongings from
the lockers. I get off last, last on the bus, first at passport control and
baggage claim.

I know that there is stiff competition for space to stow your carryons
overhead, but unless you've got a bulkhead seat why not just put it on
the floor?

(Silly question from me: shouldn't bulkhead seats be guaranteed some
kind of space for carry-ons?)

And everybody standing (well, crouching if you're not in an aisle) up
as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off... never got that either. Gees,
it's not like the airplane's on fire or anything.

Tim.

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"JP" writes:

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the
bus that is going to take them to the plane too . This makes a
mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me.

They can, of course. The reason why they don't is it speeds up
boarding, which in turn cuts the turn-around time, which is an
important part of why they're so cheap.

With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle
stampede.

Me and Stelios believe it just fine, although if you can only convince
one (1) of us you would be better off trying him.

Des

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"Des Small" wrote in message
...
"JP" writes:

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the
bus that is going to take them to the plane too . This makes a
mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me.

They can, of course. The reason why they don't is it speeds up
boarding,

I can't believe that it saves more than a minute or two.
They generally start boarding 15 minutes before schedual
and everyone (at the gate) is boarded with 5 minutes to
go.

ISTM that it costs real money to implement a seat allocation
system at check-in. This also takes longer (uses more staff)
whilst everyone selects their favorite seat.

which in turn cuts the turn-around time, which is an
important part of why they're so cheap.

With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle
stampede.

Me and Stelios believe it just fine, although if you can only convince
one (1) of us you would be better off trying him.

Des

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JP wrote:
e.

It´s even funnier at disembarking, they way the sheep stand up and bend
their neck in a strange contortion as they rush to get their belongings from
the lockers. I get off last, last on the bus, first at passport control and
baggage claim.


Are you last off the plane when there is passport control and no bus?

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"tim (in Sweden)" wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

The plane doesn't take off any earlier. No matter when you get on you aren't
going to start to taxi for takeoff until everyone else is on. The sooner you
get on and get seated the longer you have to wait.

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On 2006-02-16 16:34:22 -0800, Dave Smith said:

"tim (in Sweden)" wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

The plane doesn't take off any earlier. No matter when you get on you aren't
going to start to taxi for takeoff until everyone else is on. The sooner you
get on and get seated the longer you have to wait.

let me see if I have this right....ok, I get on before you all and I
get to sit among all the little screaming snot-nozzles and their
entitled parents and wait until all are loaded? are you serious? bill

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S can rim Margaret Thatcher for all I care.

You need to wait for the craft to take off whatever happens.

"tim (in Sweden)" wrote in message
...
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

tim

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Following up to bill frogg :

On 2006-02-16 16:34:22 -0800, Dave Smith said:

"tim (in Sweden)" wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

The plane doesn't take off any earlier. No matter when you get on you aren't
going to start to taxi for takeoff until everyone else is on. The sooner you
get on and get seated the longer you have to wait.

let me see if I have this right....ok, I get on before you all and I
get to sit among all the little screaming snot-nozzles and their
entitled parents and wait until all are loaded? are you serious? bill

Only if you're as thick as two short planks.
Would it not occur to you to site somewhere else?
--
Tim C.

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tim (in Sweden) wrote:
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

tim



AFAIAA there are several reasons for letting families with small
children (and incidentally, elderly frail relatives) on first.

Firstly, it is unreasonable to expect families with small children or
elderly passengers to have to stand and wait in line for an interminable
length of time to board the plane.

Secondly, the rule ensures that families with small children can sit
together.

Lastly, there is the safety aspect to avoid injury to small children
in the push and shove to get on.

I can't see that extending this privilege to passengers who are
prepared to spend the money is going to help either the safety or
comfort of small childrenand elderly passengers, or make it easier for
families with small children to sit together.

T.

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Following up to tim (in Sweden)

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

If I had to use his flights I'd pay to avoid fighting my way to a
seat. Assuming the system was actually going to work. What I
really want is them to do the job properly and allocate me seats
together in the first place so I don't have to queue and my wife
can sit down until boarding.
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Following up to tim (in Sweden)

ISTM that it costs real money to implement a seat allocation
system at check-in. This also takes longer (uses more staff)
whilst everyone selects their favorite seat.

They usually just ask aisle or window. How long does that take?
I don't believe the quick boarding story, how much does it slow
things down passengers identifying the correct seat? Most of any
delay is from the time it takes to put things in overheads before
sitting down holding up those behind.
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:40:11 +0100, "tim \(in Sweden\)" wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

tim



I would pay for it - for one and only one reason - Overhead space. The one battle ground IMHO
amongst all pax in needing to board first. Mind you, I'm not a space hog at all. I stick to
the "one carryon + personal item" limit in force by most US Airlines (personal item goes under
the seat). But in a full aircraft of most sizes (eg. A320), there simply isn't enough room for each
pax (even if they all complied with the present 1 carryon + personal item policy) to have sufficient
overhead space for that 1 carryon or personal item (whichever they choose to store up there).
Furthermore, people want the overhead space directly over their seat, not 2-3 rows away from
it, making it harder to retrieve baggage upon exiting. Hence, the conflict ensues.

If people were "guaranteed" their fare share of overhead space (ie. enough to store that one
9x14x22" carryon), there would be absolutely no need to board ASAP and no need for this
new charge. But wishful thinking, of course. Practically, it's really only an issue on "discount"
airlines "Jet Blue, USA3000, Southwest etc." where it's all coach seating and/or "open seating"
and there's no pre-boarding for BC, BF or FC. I'm assuming that the airline refered to by the OP
is such an airline.





____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold

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"The Reid" wrote in message
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Following up to tim (in Sweden)

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

If I had to use his flights I'd pay to avoid fighting my way to a
seat. Assuming the system was actually going to work. What I
really want is them to do the job properly and allocate me seats
together in the first place so I don't have to queue and my wife
can sit down until boarding.
--
Mike Reid

Is there any reason why they cannot allow on-line seat allocations
beforehand ? The fleets are pretty standard so its not as though they need
to wait for the plane to be almost there before they can do it.

Meanwhile. How about this as an idea ?
Swipe card deposit for return of a clean seat (a la hire cars - even Easy
Car) - a £5 per seat cleeaning charge if it needs de-crumbing, a £10 if it
needs washing.
I have seen many rows that would have yielded £20 or more.

John
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www.goodviews.co.uk

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Following up to John Owens

Is there any reason why they cannot allow on-line seat allocations
beforehand ?

if they had an allocation system to put online.
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