At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

When do people think it happen, due to fuel prices.
For example - when will buying an economy ticket be as much of
a burden on your wallet as buying a business class ticket is now?

Long before it becomes too expensive, it will become too much of
a pain in the ass, security-wise. The next terrorist will use plastic
explosive in shoulder pads of sportcoats or in padded underwear.
Then the security monkeys will have no choice but to strip search
many passengers and that will be the last straw for many travelers,
economy or business. When the explosives detectors finally become
sensitive enough to detect these new threats, the terrorists will find
a way to insert explosives up their butt, where only a determined
strip search will find it.

We are going to return to the dark days when most people never
traveled very far from home. People in Europe won't be affected
as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting
countries. But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending
suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on
their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can.

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When do people think it happen, due to fuel prices.
For example - when will buying an economy ticket be as much of
a burden on your wallet as buying a business class ticket is now?

Long before it becomes too expensive, it will become too much of
a pain in the ass, security-wise. The next terrorist will use plastic
explosive in shoulder pads of sportcoats or in padded underwear.
Then the security monkeys will have no choice but to strip search
many passengers and that will be the last straw for many travelers,
economy or business. When the explosives detectors finally become
sensitive enough to detect these new threats, the terrorists will find
a way to insert explosives up their butt, where only a determined
strip search will find it.

We are going to return to the dark days when most people never
traveled very far from home. People in Europe won't be affected
as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting
countries. But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending
suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on
their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can.

At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:31:43 -0600, "spamfree" wrote:


People in Europe won't be affected
as much as they will be able to travel by train to many interesting
countries.

People in Europe won't be affected because they generally mind their own
business. That's admirable behavior that no one but a complete idiot would want
to change.


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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

spamfree wrote:
But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending
suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on
their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can.


And the difference from today is?

r/l

At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

But the USA and Canada will become a never-ending
suburbia where everyone spends all of their time and money on
their decks and entertainment rooms. Travel while you still can.

And the difference from today is?

I do not know the figure for Canada but 20% of Americans have
passports. 20% of 300 million is still a lot of travelers. But your
point is quite valid, that North American has become the land of
the free (free to mindlessly shop at Wal-Mart and Home Depot).

At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

B Anderson wrote:
But in the future, the world will be a bigger place. You will have to
sacrifice thousands of dollars to visit family overseas. Or, take a boat
trip of days weeks or even months.


Will the price of ship transportation get cheaper when fuel prices make
it too expensive to fly. What about the other costs of taking off for
weeks or months?

At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:05:18 GMT, mrtravel
wrote:

B Anderson wrote:
But in the future, the world will be a bigger place. You will have to
sacrifice thousands of dollars to visit family overseas. Or, take a boat
trip of days weeks or even months.


Will the price of ship transportation get cheaper when fuel prices make
it too expensive to fly. What about the other costs of taking off for
weeks or months?

unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less
efficient at moving people than a plane?

Jim.

At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:27:59 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:05:18 GMT, mrtravel
wrote:

B Anderson wrote:
But in the future, the world will be a bigger place. You will have to
sacrifice thousands of dollars to visit family overseas. Or, take a boat
trip of days weeks or even months.


Will the price of ship transportation get cheaper when fuel prices make
it too expensive to fly. What about the other costs of taking off for
weeks or months?

unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less
efficient at moving people than a plane?

I can't see boats ever being better than planes in any terms apart
from comfort. The journey time means you need staff to be employed for
long periods, and that's where the costs are.
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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:27:59 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:


unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less
efficient at moving people than a plane?

I can't see boats ever being better than planes in any terms apart
from comfort. The journey time means you need staff to be employed for
long periods, and that's where the costs are.

Yet the simple fact is that up well into the 1960s air travel was
expensive enough that ships were the preferred means of economy
travel from the USA to Europe. As to comfort, I understood at the
time comfort wasn't a consideration; the kids partied for the
entire crossing.

For those who wanted to travel air the cheapest fare was by the
non-IATA Iceland Airlines on a turpoprop at US $300 return New
York to Amsterdam via Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Shannon.

Adjusted for inflation that $300 is $1901 today.


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At what point will air travel become unaffordable
 

Hatunen wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:


On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:27:59 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:



unless they make a lot more sailing ships, surely boats are less
efficient at moving people than a plane?

I can't see boats ever being better than planes in any terms apart

from comfort. The journey time means you need staff to be employed for

long periods, and that's where the costs are.


Yet the simple fact is that up well into the 1960s air travel was
expensive enough that ships were the preferred means of economy
travel from the USA to Europe. As to comfort, I understood at the
time comfort wasn't a consideration; the kids partied for the
entire crossing.

For those who wanted to travel air the cheapest fare was by the
non-IATA Iceland Airlines on a turpoprop at US $300 return New
York to Amsterdam via Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Shannon.

Adjusted for inflation that $300 is $1901 today.



Did Icelandic fly into Amsterdam in their early says? I only remember
them from the mid 60s when they flew into Luxembourg to avoid IATA fare
rules.

In any case I suspect that ship travel could easily be cheaper even with
a reasonable level of service. Today the only service level on most
ships is high service. (Some river boats excluded.) Certainly for
hauling freight where time is not important ships are commonly used.