Don & Lynn wrote:
I'm glad we were on a cruise last Nov. that spent the day docked in
Manhattan. That's part of the charm. You look up and there is the
Empire
State building. It was a Sunday and I talked to a lady who walked to
St.
Patrick's with her group and attended mass. These things are
priceless.
Don


Th view facing Red Hook also gives some nice sights ...burned out
buildings ... The drug pushers ... the drug adicts ... hookers ...
muggers ... Sometimes even a mugging hooker who both uses and sells
drugs and lives in a burned out building ...

I believe Red Hook is a big mistake ... it will not only take a lot to
rehab the terminal and piers ... but the neighborhood and access roads
are abysmal ... I'd say beyond rehab ... but I'm a pessimist ... or ...
a realist ...

Manhattan has its problems also ... but not by the cruise ship
terminals ...