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Old December 21st, 2019, 03:47 AM posted to soc.culture.china,talk.politics.misc,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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Default Many ex-pat pilots are out of work in China because of MAX 737

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:05:37 -0600, "Byker" wrote:

"stoney" wrote in message ...

Nowadays, all these new planes do not need white men pilots. As long the
standard training is applied to everyone, any local pilot can fly it, per
se.

The Max plane that crashed in Indonesia was piloted by the pilot from
Indonesia. When the plane crashed, Boeing blamed the incompetence of the
pilot which was an Indonesian, and also poor local maintenance crew on the
plane.

The FAA also believed so and therefore nothing much of the investigation
of the plane maker was further on that crash, until This Lion Air was new
had operated 400 hours in service only. The Ethiopian airline crashed on
March 2019. The crashed Ethiopian airliner was only 4 month old.


The Ethiopian plane was also piloted by foreign nationals who spoke English
as a second language. Why is it that there were no Max crashes involving
U.S. airlines in the prior 18 months?


I think Boeing may have had a 'cultural bias' built into
its design and instruction manual - one that put non-
english-speakers at a disadvantage. The fatal flaw
was hard to understand in and of itself, requiring some
counter-intuitive corrective measures. By the time the
foreign pilots could "think like an American" it was too
late.

It was a "smartplane" feature ... but implemented VERY
badly. No automated system should EVER fight the
pilot. It would be like an automotive cruise control applying
more throttle when you hit the brakes. The instant the
pilot put hands on the wheel the anti-stall feature should
have cut off entirely.

And now it is even WORSE for Boeing. Not only will there
be a few months more delay in re-certifying the Max (seems
there were other issues too) but this morning their new Orion
space capsule went to ****. Apparently somebody did not
set the clock correctly .......... no doubt heads are rolling down
the corridors at the office ...............

I guess this will mean two or three additional un-manned
flights will be necessary to prove they got it right. They
do think they can retrieve the capsule from its weird orbit
however so at least they be able to do a post-mortem.

The SpaceX capsule is also in limbo. It did get to the
space station, did dock, did return as intended - but
during its post-mortem/refurb a terrible design flaw
in the retro engine design became clear when one of
them exploded. That COULD have happend in space
or during re-entry, with people in the thing. Not good.

So, it looks like we will NOT have a homegrown way
to send people into space again until maybe the latter
half of 2020, maybe 2021. I sure as hell would not trust
the products of EITHER company until they got quite
a number of full successes under their belts. Pack
the things with TV dinners for the space station ...
may as well get some use out of them during the
tests. (millenials+ may not know what a "TV dinner"
actually was ... I do recall the peas always tasted
of aluminum ...)