Searching contents of computer HDs during security checks?

"Michelle Steiner" wrote t...
B. Dissen may have written.....


The TSA, has no clue as to whether you checked bags.

If you have a one-way ticket and no checked baggage, your boarding pass
will be coded for TSA. This happened to me two years ago when I flew to
NYC for a funeral. I had to buy two one-way tickets--two separate
airlines--because of scheduling issues, and got searched twice. The
code back then was "XXX" if I recall correctly.

I don't know how they handle it now with boarding passes that you can
print on your computer, though.


Your searches by TSA had only to do with the One Way Tickets, not the lack
of checked baggage. It's an (almost?) automatic "Red Flag". They neither
know or care whether you've checked a bag , since the BP has no notation
thereof.

TMO

On May 10, 3:29 pm, "TMOliver" wrote:
"Michelle Steiner" wrote t...

Your searches by TSA had only to do with the One Way Tickets, not the lack
of checked baggage. It's an (almost?) automatic "Red Flag". They neither
know or care whether you've checked a bag , since the BP has no notation
thereof.


Are you sure? I'm looking at two recent boarding passes, one from US
Air, the other from Air France. Each of them has at the bottom space
for information about checked luggage. If no luggage is checked, the
space remains empty. If you check it, the BP will show the number of
pieces, and their weight.

In particular, the US Air has the following annotations:

PCS. , CK.WT., UNCK.WT

The AF BP shows:

NB, Poids/Weight.


jrk

TMO

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"TMOliver" wrote:

"Michelle Steiner" wrote t...
B. Dissen may have written.....


The TSA, has no clue as to whether you checked bags.

If you have a one-way ticket and no checked baggage, your boarding pass
will be coded for TSA. This happened to me two years ago when I flew to
NYC for a funeral. I had to buy two one-way tickets--two separate
airlines--because of scheduling issues, and got searched twice. The
code back then was "XXX" if I recall correctly.

I don't know how they handle it now with boarding passes that you can
print on your computer, though.


Your searches by TSA had only to do with the One Way Tickets, not the lack
of checked baggage. It's an (almost?) automatic "Red Flag". They neither
know or care whether you've checked a bag , since the BP has no notation
thereof.

TMO

Not entirely. No bags is one of the red flags that the airline is
supposed to look for (in addition to one-way tickets, tickets bought
with cash, walk-ups, and a couple of other things.)

wrote:
On May 10, 3:29 pm, "TMOliver" wrote:

"Michelle Steiner" wrote t...


Your searches by TSA had only to do with the One Way Tickets, not the lack
of checked baggage. It's an (almost?) automatic "Red Flag". They neither
know or care whether you've checked a bag , since the BP has no notation
thereof.



Are you sure? I'm looking at two recent boarding passes, one from US
Air, the other from Air France. Each of them has at the bottom space
for information about checked luggage. If no luggage is checked, the
space remains empty. If you check it, the BP will show the number of
pieces, and their weight.

In particular, the US Air has the following annotations:

The poster said he

Flew to New York and was searched both ways with one way tickets by TSA
This seems to indicate that he had flown domestically. I have not seen
any code on my BP that indicates checked baggage on a domestic flight.

"Michelle Steiner" wrote:
The boarding pass itself doesn't, but it does have the code...

It doesn't, but it does? What "it" has the code? IMO, lack
of precision in writing may justify a full-body cavity search.
:-/ =R=

Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article ,
"TMOliver" wrote:


If you have a one-way ticket and no checked baggage, your boarding
pass will be coded for TSA. This happened to me two years ago when
I flew to NYC for a funeral. I had to buy two one-way tickets--two
separate airlines--because of scheduling issues, and got searched
twice. The code back then was "XXX" if I recall correctly.

I don't know how they handle it now with boarding passes that you
can print on your computer, though.

Your searches by TSA had only to do with the One Way Tickets, not the
lack of checked baggage.


Nope. It required both. A friend and her mother flew one-way here; my
friend did not have checked baggage, but her mother did. My friend got
the full search, but her mother didn't.


It's an (almost?) automatic "Red Flag". They neither know or care
whether you've checked a bag , since the BP has no notation thereof.


The boarding pass itself doesn't, but it does have the code to let TSA
know whether a full search is required--and one of the triggers for that
code is a combination of one-way and no checked baggage.


In any case, buying a one way ticket and/or not checking baggage is not
really a good "red flag" for detecting terrorists.

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NotABushSupporter wrote:

In any case, buying a one way ticket and/or not checking baggage is not
really a good "red flag" for detecting terrorists.

Sure, but it's about the only profiling the TSA is allowed to do these
days.

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In message Michelle
Steiner wrote:

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"Rog'" wrote:

The boarding pass itself doesn't, but it does have the code...

It doesn't, but it does? What "it" has the code? IMO, lack of
precision in writing may justify a full-body cavity search.

In context it is precise. The boarding pass itself doesn't show any
data about luggage, but the boarding pass does have the code for "search
this person".

In fairness, the checked-luggage sticker is usually on the back of the
boarding pass, or the jacket.

Not exactly a "secure" way of determining whether or not someone checked
luggage, but then TSA isn't about being secure anyway, it's just about
looking secure.

Even printing this detail on the boarding pass wouldn't be that useful,
since you could do the dummy-boarding password trick.

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We know America is a great nation! Where else could a poor black boy
be born in utter poverty and end up a rich white man?
Only in America!

BushSupporter wrote:
Michelle Steiner wrote:

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"TMOliver" wrote:


If you have a one-way ticket and no checked baggage, your boarding
pass will be coded for TSA. This happened to me two years ago when
I flew to NYC for a funeral. I had to buy two one-way tickets--two
separate airlines--because of scheduling issues, and got searched
twice. The code back then was "XXX" if I recall correctly.


The boarding pass itself doesn't, but it does have the code to let TSA
know whether a full search is required--and one of the triggers for
that code is a combination of one-way and no checked baggage.


In any case, buying a one way ticket and/or not checking baggage is not
really a good "red flag" for detecting terrorists.

It'd be a hasty terrorist,iae, no? One who didn't spend time on usenet
reading such gems.

I was just trying to reflect whether over the last 50 years I have flown
with both those conditions. Can't think of one off hand, but I could
imagine some circumstances where that'd be the case.

--
John McWilliams

John McWilliams wrote:
BushSupporter wrote:
In any case, buying a one way ticket and/or not checking baggage is
not really a good "red flag" for detecting terrorists.

It'd be a hasty terrorist,iae, no? One who didn't spend time on usenet
reading such gems.

I was just trying to reflect whether over the last 50 years I have flown
with both those conditions. Can't think of one off hand, but I could
imagine some circumstances where that'd be the case.

I meet those criteria (one-way ticket, no checked bags) on a lot of
flights and I am very rarely sent for secondary screening.

I assume that even the TSA has finally realized that they are an idiotic
benchmark for terrorist intent.

miguel
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