Ship Attacks

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:20:52 -0500, Brian K
wrote:

On 11/23/2008 10:49 AM did a "happy
dance", then made these writings:
On Nov 22, 2:42 pm, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net wrote:

With the rash of rash of pirate and terrorist stories, the cruise lines must
have contingency plans to repel attacks.


One point to remember is most ships you hear about have small crews.
IE 10-30 people on board at most.

A major cruise ship has that many people in just officers/bridge crew
alone (these are the people I would expect to take any action to repel
broaders). Additionally, there is the chance that some of the
passengers would also fight (this is both good and bad at the same
time). You need more that a bunch of people in a speed boat or two to
take over such a large ship.

Not saying it can't be done, but you need a better organization that
what I see most modern day pirates using.


It has been done. Remember the takeover of the Achille Lauro ?

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_196...ille_lauro.php

Doesn't appear to be an unbiased source of information.

Last week, on the Oceania Regatta, our Cruise Director did mention the fact
that the Regatta has several of these LRAD devices on board, and that they
also have extra security people on board whenever they go through waters
that are known to have pirate activity. These special security people are
"incognito", in other words, they are travelling as ordinary passengers.

Some members of the crew are specially trained to operate the LRADs, and are
required to wear special earmuffs because, even behind the guns, the
results can be devastating.

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Becca" wrote in message
...
This article was posted on March 25, 2008.

http://maritimeaccident.wordpress.co...oes-lrad-work/

In theory, the LRAD sends out a concentrated beam of ear-popping sound
painful enough to burst eardrums and deter attackers. A popular version is
sold by American Technology Corporation.

So far, there has been only one reported successful use of this device,
when the cruise ship /Seabourn Spirit/ was attacked by pirates off the
coast of Somalia. However, a close reading of reports of the event must
necessarily raise the question of whether it was the spirited defence of
the ship by its security officer Michael Grave and his colleage Som
Bahadur Gurung, which included high pressure hose and aggressive maneuvers
by the master. Michael Graves suffered permanent hearing damage. Grave and
Gurung deservedly were awarded the Queens Gallantry Medal and Commendation
for Bravery.

Tobie Gerbrandt wrote:
Last week, on the Oceania Regatta, our Cruise Director did mention the fact
that the Regatta has several of these LRAD devices on board, and that they
also have extra security people on board whenever they go through waters
that are known to have pirate activity. These special security people are
"incognito", in other words, they are travelling as ordinary passengers.

Some members of the crew are specially trained to operate the LRADs, and are
required to wear special earmuffs because, even behind the guns, the
results can be devastating.

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

Tobie, I think you and I might have found a second calling.

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Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Nonnymus" wrote in message
...
Tobie Gerbrandt wrote:
Last week, on the Oceania Regatta, our Cruise Director did mention the
fact that the Regatta has several of these LRAD devices on board, and
that they also have extra security people on board whenever they go
through waters that are known to have pirate activity. These special
security people are "incognito", in other words, they are travelling as
ordinary passengers.

Some members of the crew are specially trained to operate the LRADs, and
are required to wear special earmuffs because, even behind the guns, the
results can be devastating.

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

Tobie, I think you and I might have found a second calling.

--
Nonnymus-

Suppose you were an idiot.
And suppose you were a member of Congress....
But then I repeat myself.

-Mark Twain

Hmmmm. Sounds like a new show for Discovery..... "Pirate Wars!!"
Just send the Steve Irwin to the waters off Somalia and then see what
they do.



JB

WHAT?
--
Greg


"Tobie Gerbrandt" wrote in message
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HEAR! HEAR!

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

On 11/22/2008 4:43 PM Becca did a "happy dance", then made these writings:
This article was posted on March 25, 2008.

http://maritimeaccident.wordpress.co...oes-lrad-work/

In theory, the LRAD sends out a concentrated beam of ear-popping sound
painful enough to burst eardrums and deter attackers. A popular
version is sold by American Technology Corporation.

So far, there has been only one reported successful use of this
device, when the cruise ship /Seabourn Spirit/ was attacked by pirates
off the coast of Somalia. However, a close reading of reports of the
event must necessarily raise the question of whether it was the
spirited defence of the ship by its security officer Michael Grave and
his colleage Som Bahadur Gurung, which included high pressure hose and
aggressive maneuvers by the master. Michael Graves suffered permanent
hearing damage. Grave and Gurung deservedly were awarded the Queens
Gallantry Medal and Commendation for Bravery.

Gee Becca,

Maybe they can use the LRAD to zap kidney stones, or to treat Peyronie's
Disease by zapping the affected area. ;-)

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Tobie,

Enquiring Minds would like to know, what happens to the pax when this
LRAD is fired? I wonder if they have ever researched the effects of
feeding Yoko Ono singing through one of these things? ;-)


On 11/27/2008 12:41 PM Tobie Gerbrandt did a "happy dance", then made
these writings:
Last week, on the Oceania Regatta, our Cruise Director did mention the fact
that the Regatta has several of these LRAD devices on board, and that they
also have extra security people on board whenever they go through waters
that are known to have pirate activity. These special security people are
"incognito", in other words, they are travelling as ordinary passengers.

Some members of the crew are specially trained to operate the LRADs, and are
required to wear special earmuffs because, even behind the guns, the
results can be devastating.

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Becca" wrote in message
...

This article was posted on March 25, 2008.

http://maritimeaccident.wordpress.co...oes-lrad-work/

In theory, the LRAD sends out a concentrated beam of ear-popping sound
painful enough to burst eardrums and deter attackers. A popular version is
sold by American Technology Corporation.

So far, there has been only one reported successful use of this device,
when the cruise ship /Seabourn Spirit/ was attacked by pirates off the
coast of Somalia. However, a close reading of reports of the event must
necessarily raise the question of whether it was the spirited defence of
the ship by its security officer Michael Grave and his colleage Som
Bahadur Gurung, which included high pressure hose and aggressive maneuvers
by the master. Michael Graves suffered permanent hearing damage. Grave and
Gurung deservedly were awarded the Queens Gallantry Medal and Commendation
for Bravery.

On 11/27/2008 9:25 PM jimbob did a "happy dance", then made these
writings:
Hmmmm. Sounds like a new show for Discovery..... "Pirate Wars!!"
Just send the Steve Irwin to the waters off Somalia and then see what
they do.



JB


They wouldn't bother. Their mission is to prevent the Japanese whaling
boats from killing whales in the protected zone off the Australian
coast. Besides, I don't think you could stop Somalian pirates with stink
bombs, propeller fouling ropes that never work, or being taken hostage.
Pirates on the high seas don't take hostages, they just kill and
plunder. =-O

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Brian K wrote:
I wonder if they have ever researched the effects of
feeding Yoko Ono singing through one of these things? ;-)

I like that suggestion far better than just feeding the sound of her
voice as she sings. grin

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Nonnymus-

Suppose you were an idiot.
And suppose you were a member of Congress....
But then I repeat myself.

-Mark Twain