Unanswered questions at Dulles Airport

Darryl wrote:
... so why not htis guy?
because he's a reporter specializing in privacy issues
and you're a sheep.

LOL. He can call himself anything he wants. At least I've
figured out that there's more to life than tilting at windmills.
I prefer to get to my destinations than score points. =R=

Rog' wrote:

Darryl wrote:

... so why not htis guy?

because he's a reporter specializing in privacy issues
and you're a sheep.


LOL. He can call himself anything he wants. At least I've
figured out that there's more to life than tilting at windmills.
I prefer to get to my destinations than score points. =R=


Agreed. It's also very old territory. We know that matching ID to
boarding pass before entering the screening area does NOTHING to
increase our security, and does NOTHING to prevent a terrorist from
boarding a plane. So, it really doesn't matter who the ID screener
works for, does it? Arguing the point with the ID checker is pointless
and holds up the line.

I've gotten a response from the TSA Privacy Officer,
although it raises as many new questions as it answers:

http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001081.html

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"The Practical Nomad: How to Travel Around the World"
(3rd edition, 2004)
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"Edward Hasbrouck" wrote:
I've gotten a response from the TSA Privacy Officer,...

Do you really believe someone gives a rats-ass?

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says...
"Edward Hasbrouck" wrote:
I've gotten a response from the TSA Privacy Officer,...

Do you really believe someone gives a rats-ass?



And your contribution is...?

Rog' wrote:
"Edward Hasbrouck" wrote:
I've gotten a response from the TSA Privacy Officer,...

Do you really believe someone gives a rats-ass?


I do. I use SFO once a month and worry about exactly who is who.
--

mysteryflyer
http://www.mysteryflyer.com/

VS wrote:
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mysteryflyer wrote:

I do. I use SFO once a month and worry about exactly who is who.

What exactly do you worry about? Now, this ``hasbrouck,'' he is
a Privacy Advocate(tm). Describes every moment of his existence
in excruciating, mind-numbing detail on a public website, and then
worries about somebody sneaking an unauthorized peek into his passport.
In other words, a garden-variety nutjob.

What's *your* fixation?

Your at the airport and a guy walks up in a fairly nondescript
uniform.
He says he needs to see your id. Do you ask why? If you do and
he says he's "with TSA" do you show it to him? Do you ask for his ID?
What would it look like if you did? Now he looks at your ID and says,
"Hmmm, step this way please". Do you follow him behind a closed,
unmarked door? If you resist, what would you expect to happen?

In article . com,
wrote:

Your at the airport and a guy walks up in a fairly nondescript
uniform. He says he needs to see your id. Do you ask why?

Never happened to me, and nobody walked up to ``hasbrouck,'' either.
There is usually a fella standing (*not* walking up to anyone)
where the line to the security checkpoints starts, checking folks'
boarding passes and IDs - presumably, to make sure that only people
with boarding passes get past the checkpoint. ``hasbrouck'' walked
up to them, not the other way around.

If you do and
he says he's "with TSA" do you show it to him? Do you ask for his ID?
What would it look like if you did?

Who gives a diddly? These ID checkers are at just about every airport
these days, even outside the US: I see them at UIO and LGW and PTY,
where they certainly have nothing to do with TSA. What they do is,
admittedly, pointless, but harmless.

Now he looks at your ID and says,
"Hmmm, step this way please". Do you follow him behind a closed,
unmarked door? If you resist, what would you expect to happen?

Dunno, black helicopters come and take me away?

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VS wrote:

In article ,
mysteryflyer wrote:


I do. I use SFO once a month and worry about exactly who is who.

What exactly do you worry about? Now, this ``hasbrouck,'' he is
a Privacy Advocate(tm). Describes every moment of his existence
in excruciating, mind-numbing detail on a public website, and then
worries about somebody sneaking an unauthorized peek into his passport.
In other words, a garden-variety nutjob.

What's *your* fixation?


Your at the airport and a guy walks up in a fairly nondescript
uniform.
He says he needs to see your id. Do you ask why? If you do and
he says he's "with TSA" do you show it to him? Do you ask for his ID?
What would it look like if you did? Now he looks at your ID and says,
"Hmmm, step this way please". Do you follow him behind a closed,
unmarked door? If you resist, what would you expect to happen?


I thought he was asked for his ID at the normal place you go to when
entering the TSA checkpoint line. Did you read that this action took
place elsewhere?

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Well sorta the point. At various times these folks appear out of
no where at points that they didn't formerly exist.

Perhaps, but this is NOT what happened in his case.
After all, HE is the one who identified the ID checker, the checker
didn't walk up to him and ask for his ID.
Obviously, if an ununiformed person asked me for my ID, I would ask for
his first. If there was a question about it, then I wouldn't give it to
him, unless I verified who he was. If a TSA agent said it was OK to show
the guy the ID, I would do it. What is the damn big deal about showing
your ID at the airport. It's not a new thing.