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On Oct 16, 12:58*am, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

The law requires that the cruise originate and terminate at the same
port, or visit a "distant foreign port" in the interim. *This is how
transcanal cruises work.

Not quite. Rountrips from US ports must include a foreign port (but
not necessarily one designated as "distant". One way cruises between
two US ports requires a stop at a "distant" foreign port as George has
described. None of this applies to US flagged ships.

What the OP of the thread did was create a one way cruise Miami-Key
West. So the rules ostensibly changed for them but not their fellow
passengers. They personally violated the "distant" foreign port
requirement, while the rest of the passengers aboard only needed to
visit foreign ports. The Bahamas met the foreign port criteria, but
not the "distant" foreign port criteria.

It's a silly law that should be repealed.

Warren

Warren wrote:
On Oct 16, 12:58 am, Dillon Pyron
wrote:
The law requires that the cruise originate and terminate at the same
port, or visit a "distant foreign port" in the interim. This is how
transcanal cruises work.

Not quite. Rountrips from US ports must include a foreign port (but
not necessarily one designated as "distant". One way cruises between
two US ports requires a stop at a "distant" foreign port as George has
described. None of this applies to US flagged ships.

What the OP of the thread did was create a one way cruise Miami-Key
West. So the rules ostensibly changed for them but not their fellow
passengers. They personally violated the "distant" foreign port
requirement, while the rest of the passengers aboard only needed to
visit foreign ports. The Bahamas met the foreign port criteria, but
not the "distant" foreign port criteria.

It's a silly law that should be repealed.

Warren

We did a one way from Hawaii to San Diego a few years back and the
foreign port was just Ensenada. I call it a cruise to San Diego, but we
had to actually disembark in Ensenada and board a bus to get to San
Diego and return home. My guess was that the stopover in Ensenada alone
wasn't enough for the ship (Ryndam) to claim exemption from the tariff,
but never really found out.

FWIW, the bus ride up the coast was absolutely great, the scenery was
good, and it made for a fine ending to a wonderful cruise.

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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:13 -0700, Nonnymus wrote:

We did a one way from Hawaii to San Diego a few years back and the
foreign port was just Ensenada. I call it a cruise to San Diego, but we
had to actually disembark in Ensenada and board a bus to get to San
Diego and return home. My guess was that the stopover in Ensenada alone
wasn't enough for the ship (Ryndam) to claim exemption from the tariff,
but never really found out.

Hi Nonny,

These are considered a cruise from Hawaii to Mexico which is why the
PSA did not apply to your sailing.

Best regards,
Ray
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[Default] Thus spake Ray Goldenberg :

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:13 -0700, Nonnymus wrote:

We did a one way from Hawaii to San Diego a few years back and the
foreign port was just Ensenada. I call it a cruise to San Diego, but we
had to actually disembark in Ensenada and board a bus to get to San
Diego and return home. My guess was that the stopover in Ensenada alone
wasn't enough for the ship (Ryndam) to claim exemption from the tariff,
but never really found out.

Hi Nonny,

These are considered a cruise from Hawaii to Mexico which is why the
PSA did not apply to your sailing.

And NCLA is bitching and whining that the lines are circumventing the
PSA by doing this.

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:42:55 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

[Default] Thus spake Ray Goldenberg :

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:13 -0700, Nonnymus wrote:

We did a one way from Hawaii to San Diego a few years back and the
foreign port was just Ensenada. I call it a cruise to San Diego, but we
had to actually disembark in Ensenada and board a bus to get to San
Diego and return home. My guess was that the stopover in Ensenada alone
wasn't enough for the ship (Ryndam) to claim exemption from the tariff,
but never really found out.

Hi Nonny,

These are considered a cruise from Hawaii to Mexico which is why the
PSA did not apply to your sailing.

And NCLA is bitching and whining that the lines are circumventing the
PSA by doing this.

Just as NCL is with its trips to Fanning Island.

[Default] Thus spake Jack Hamilton :

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:42:55 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

[Default] Thus spake Ray Goldenberg :

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:13 -0700, Nonnymus wrote:

We did a one way from Hawaii to San Diego a few years back and the
foreign port was just Ensenada. I call it a cruise to San Diego, but we
had to actually disembark in Ensenada and board a bus to get to San
Diego and return home. My guess was that the stopover in Ensenada alone
wasn't enough for the ship (Ryndam) to claim exemption from the tariff,
but never really found out.

Hi Nonny,

These are considered a cruise from Hawaii to Mexico which is why the
PSA did not apply to your sailing.

And NCLA is bitching and whining that the lines are circumventing the
PSA by doing this.

Just as NCL is with its trips to Fanning Island.

THAT is different. Trust me. Or, even better, ask NCLA. They don't
think NCL is trying to screw them.