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InTheNorthLand wrote:
Where was this court? Jury: "customer of size" not victim of airline bias The claim in that case there was racial discrimination not size discrimination. As you quoted, "A jury on Friday said Southwest Airlines did not racially discriminate" |
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"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote ... InTheNorthLand wrote: Where was this court? Jury: "customer of size" not victim of airline bias The claim in that case there was racial discrimination not size discrimination. As you quoted, "A jury on Friday said Southwest Airlines did not racially discriminate" Apparently, there have been a number of threatened and even some "filed" lawsuits, however, enough have been "tossed" that attorneys have become unwilling to accept and file them (at least on a contingency basis. It seems that WN's research into applicable state and federal statutes and common law was substantial, and that the airline has a pretty good "leg" to stand on in its ability to require the purchase of a second seat, but being willing to refund the charge when an additional empty seat is available as departure time approaches. The critical issue would seem to be how to deal with the circumstances that might occur on a flight where family groups and other passengers' wishes might make finding two adjacent seats difficult. What do you offer a volunteer to give up an aisle seat to leave and adjacent aisle/middle available? Does WN have to attempt to clear adjacent seats? Having attempted to do so as a matter of policy, does the airline have to consistently attempt such accommodations whenever faced by the dilemma? One Dallas attorney familiar with the issue expressed the opinion that the airline would be better off by never attempting to find adjoining seats, and remaining consistent by charging every pax of size for a second seat, but was worried that the policy itself currently left too much subjectivity in the determination of "qualification" as a passenger of size, that different agents might have different perspectives of plump... TMO |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Tracey writes: Steroids can cause HUGE weight gain in very short amounts of time. I believe it is an issue of water retention. Water isn't fat. Insulin is a fat storing hormone. There are a number of medications that can and do cause significant weight gain without any overeating by the medication taker, indeed, even while reducing calories. This is a well known fact, not speculation or opinion. You have some self-educating to do about medications and weight gain if you are unaware of this. Unless all you want to do is blame overweight passengers for their size, making it some sort of moral failing rather than a seating issue, it's beside the point anyway. One person per seat is the rule regardless of passenger size or the reason for passenger size, unless you've got a lap child on the ticket. |
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bunny writes: [to "Mxsmanic"] Unless all you want to do is blame overweight passengers for their size, making it some sort of moral failing rather than a seating issue, it's beside the point anyway. I don't see that giving overweight passengers the benefit of the doubt on the basis that there *might* be a hormonal explanation for their corpulence is philosophically any different from giving them the *detriment* of the doubt by assuming that they got that way from overeating. Geoff -- "It takes a lot more integrity, character, and courage to be a conservative than it does to be a liberal. That's because at its most basic level, liberalism is nothing more than childlike emotionalism applied to adult issues." -- John Hawkins |
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Geoff Miller wrote:
bunny writes: [to "Mxsmanic"] Unless all you want to do is blame overweight passengers for their size, making it some sort of moral failing rather than a seating issue, it's beside the point anyway. I don't see that giving overweight passengers the benefit of the doubt on the basis that there *might* be a hormonal explanation for their corpulence is philosophically any different from giving them the *detriment* of the doubt by assuming that they got that way from overeating. In any case, it doesn't matter how they got that way. If they need more room, they should pay for it. |
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