Ragheads Kicked Off Of Phoenix - Bound Flight...

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:45:02 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
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:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
: I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National as
: it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
:
:
:No, you said that you have flown all over the US.

And where do you think that's changed?

:"Those people you mentioned are met by airline personnel. I've flown
:all over the US and I've yet to fly into any airport since 9/11 where
:any non-ticketed passengers were allowed past the security area."

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Sarah Czepiel wrote:


Is that a Reagan National only policy? I don't know, I don't care.
It's what I've observed here, experienced here, and what the signs say
throughout the security areas.


That is precisely the status at the six airports I have flown from in
the last 18 months, including those in the metropolitan New York
region. Maybe the postings here indicate a different attitude in most
of the rest of the country. Maybe the posters have never seen a
terminal in full-fledged lockdown. It is quite a sight.


Mr OTTER... Are you stating that none of these 6 airports require people
to escort UM's to and from the gate?

If you stop twisting the words, in the cases I have personally witnessed,
airline personnel escorted the unaccompanied minors beyond the security
checkpoint.

I met my daughter at DCA in August, and on the way back dropped her at
BWI.

Does that mean that in both of those instances you were given passes to go
through the security checkpoints or was that intentionally left unmentioned?

Sarah Czepiel wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:41 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:

:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
:
: I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National as
: it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
:
:
:At what point did state you were only talking about DCA,

It was one of my first comments. Of course it wasn't directed to you
since you had to make three or more attempts at inserting yourself
into the conversation before I noticed you at all.

HUH... I was the one who brought up the subject of people using passes
to meet relatives.

And you still seem to be missing the point that, at most US airports,
someone on the terrorist watch list could use a FAKE boarding pass (with
his real name) to get through security and a REAL boarding pass (with a
non-terrorist list name) to get on the plane.

Sancho Panza wrote:

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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wrote:


Sarah Czepiel wrote:



Is that a Reagan National only policy? I don't know, I don't care.
It's what I've observed here, experienced here, and what the signs say
throughout the security areas.


That is precisely the status at the six airports I have flown from in
the last 18 months, including those in the metropolitan New York
region. Maybe the postings here indicate a different attitude in most
of the rest of the country. Maybe the posters have never seen a
terminal in full-fledged lockdown. It is quite a sight.


Mr OTTER... Are you stating that none of these 6 airports require people
to escort UM's to and from the gate?


If you stop twisting the words, in the cases I have personally witnessed,
airline personnel escorted the unaccompanied minors beyond the security
checkpoint.

Interesting. Sancho, are you also the Mr. Otter I was responding to?


I met my daughter at DCA in August, and on the way back dropped her at
BWI.


Does that mean that in both of those instances you were given passes to go
through the security checkpoints or was that intentionally left unmentioned?


Yes, it does. As I have indicated. You can get a pass from the airline
to get airside. Your previous responses indicated that only people
could only get through security if they were flying and I was wrong.

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:02:24 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:

:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
: On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:41 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
: wrote:
:
: :Sarah Czepiel wrote:
: :
: :
: : I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National as
: : it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: : Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
: :
: :
: :At what point did state you were only talking about DCA,
:
: It was one of my first comments. Of course it wasn't directed to you
: since you had to make three or more attempts at inserting yourself
: into the conversation before I noticed you at all.
:
:HUH... I was the one who brought up the subject of people using passes
:to meet relatives.

And my comment was STILL not directed to you but to another poster in
the thread and you STILL had to make three or more attempts at
inserting yourself into the conversation before I noticed you.

:And you still seem to be missing the point that, at most US airports,
:someone on the terrorist watch list could use a FAKE boarding pass (with
:his real name) to get through security and a REAL boarding pass (with a
:non-terrorist list name) to get on the plane.

And you're beating a dead horse. Is anyone left reading your
comments that cares?

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Sarah Czepiel wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:41 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:

:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
:
: I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National
as
: it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
:
:
:At what point did state you were only talking about DCA,

It was one of my first comments. Of course it wasn't directed to you
since you had to make three or more attempts at inserting yourself
into the conversation before I noticed you at all.

HUH... I was the one who brought up the subject of people using passes
to meet relatives.

And you still seem to be missing the point that, at most US airports,
someone on the terrorist watch list could use a FAKE boarding pass (with
his real name) to get through security and a REAL boarding pass (with a
non-terrorist list name) to get on the plane.

If a real terrorist had a fake and a real boarding pass, why would he or she
present the fake one at the security checkpoint, especially if the pass is
not checked against a database?

Sancho Panza wrote:


If a real terrorist had a fake and a real boarding pass, why would he or she
present the fake one at the security checkpoint, especially if the pass is
not checked against a database?


Do you still not understand??

The name in REAL reservation would be checked against the database.
This is why they would us a fake name for this reservation.

The REAL boarding pass would NOT be in their name, so this avoids a
check against the terrorist watch list. I was talking about terrorists
on the watch list, not all terrorists.


They would use the fake one at the security check point, because this is
where the ID and BP name have to match.

In message "Sancho Panza"
wrote:


"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Sarah Czepiel wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:41 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:

:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
:
: I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National
as
: it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
:
:
:At what point did state you were only talking about DCA,

It was one of my first comments. Of course it wasn't directed to you
since you had to make three or more attempts at inserting yourself
into the conversation before I noticed you at all.

HUH... I was the one who brought up the subject of people using passes
to meet relatives.

And you still seem to be missing the point that, at most US airports,
someone on the terrorist watch list could use a FAKE boarding pass (with
his real name) to get through security and a REAL boarding pass (with a
non-terrorist list name) to get on the plane.

If a real terrorist had a fake and a real boarding pass, why would he or she
present the fake one at the security checkpoint, especially if the pass is
not checked against a database?


Because the fake one is the one that matches his REAL identification.

--
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?

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In message "Sancho Panza"
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"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Sarah Czepiel wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:41 -0800, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:

:Sarah Czepiel wrote:
:
:
: I will reiterate for you: I gave as my reference Reagan National
as
: it's the airport I use. AT REAGAN NATIONAL : ONLY Ticketed
: Passengers get through the secure area to the gates.
:
:
:At what point did state you were only talking about DCA,

It was one of my first comments. Of course it wasn't directed to you
since you had to make three or more attempts at inserting yourself
into the conversation before I noticed you at all.

HUH... I was the one who brought up the subject of people using passes
to meet relatives.

And you still seem to be missing the point that, at most US airports,
someone on the terrorist watch list could use a FAKE boarding pass (with
his real name) to get through security and a REAL boarding pass (with a
non-terrorist list name) to get on the plane.

If a real terrorist had a fake and a real boarding pass, why would he or
she
present the fake one at the security checkpoint, especially if the pass is
not checked against a database?


Because the fake one is the one that matches his REAL identification.

To what end? He would then just be left standing around the gate area if he
didn't have real boarding pass/ticket and real ID.

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
...
Sancho Panza wrote:


If a real terrorist had a fake and a real boarding pass, why would he or
she
present the fake one at the security checkpoint, especially if the pass
is
not checked against a database?


Do you still not understand??

The name in REAL reservation would be checked against the database.
This is why they would us a fake name for this reservation.

The REAL boarding pass would NOT be in their name, so this avoids a check
against the terrorist watch list. I was talking about terrorists on the
watch list, not all terrorists.


They would use the fake one at the security check point, because this is
where the ID and BP name have to match.

If they're going to board a plane anyway, what's the difference?