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Old March 5th, 2004, 06:19 AM
Hatunen
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:01:53 GMT, Luree wrote:

The Republic Of Western Canada

(1 ) It will “free the west” from all forced Bilingualism!

( 2 ) No more parliamentary system


Lots of republics have a parliamentary system.

(3 ) An Elected Republican national leader (Canadians never elected
their PM. .his name never appeared on the ballot!)


Only if you change to a presidential type system. Of course, the
president of the United States isn't elected by the people
either. In most states his name does appear on the ballot, but is
really voting for presidential Electors. In some states, at least
until recently, the presidential candidate's name didn't appear
on the ballot.


(4 ) An elected senate.

(5 ) An elected congress.

This would give us a “True elected bicameral legislative assembly!”

In a Republic of Western Canada the provinces would all become
independent Republics.


How is Western Canada a republic if all of its constituent parts
are independent?

All formal ties to Ottawa would end.


I really do suggest working out some treaties with them.

Without the parliamentary system, the Monarchy could not be any part
of the new Government!.


Lot of countries without a monarch have a parliamentary system.
In fact, in general, the word republic simply 4means a country
without a monarch.

[...]

A Republic of western Canada would develop close trade relations with
America and all other countries in the vast pacific rim countries.


I give it about twenty years before the prairie provinces start a
movement to join the US as states.


Local populations would determine how different languages are best
used in government and in private enterprise.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press would give rise to new all
Western broadcast networks that are totally free from government
cultural edicts.


Whats the matter? Can't you get enough American stations out
west?

[...]

I have a feeling you haven't really thought about this enough.

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Old March 6th, 2004, 07:31 AM
Dennis P. Harris
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:01:53 GMT, Luree wrote:

The Republic Of Western Canada

(1 ) It will “free the west” from all forced Bilingualism!

oh, such hard work, all that diversity. i suppose you'll want to
outlaw first nations languages, too?

whatta bigot.


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Old March 7th, 2004, 04:20 AM
Alan Pollock
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Dennis P. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:01:53 GMT, Luree wrote:


The Republic Of Western Canada

(1 ) It will ?free the west? from all forced Bilingualism!

oh, such hard work, all that diversity. i suppose you'll want to
outlaw first nations languages, too?


whatta bigot.



Call him what you wish, but Canadian westerners have real grievances. Yes, the
poster was horribly mixed-up and added nonsense, but the fact remains and
should be noted. Nex
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Old March 9th, 2004, 03:55 AM
Mike from Ottawa
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 04:20:16 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Dennis P. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:01:53 GMT, Luree wrote:


The Republic Of Western Canada

(1 ) It will ?free the west? from all forced Bilingualism!

oh, such hard work, all that diversity. i suppose you'll want to
outlaw first nations languages, too?


whatta bigot.



Call him what you wish, but Canadian westerners have real grievances. Yes, the
poster was horribly mixed-up and added nonsense, but the fact remains and
should be noted. Nex


Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire to
join the US or any other country.

Now if only we could develop some interesting politicians who aren't
totally consumed by power lust, ego, greed and self-interest...

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Mike from Ottawa
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Old March 9th, 2004, 05:17 AM
Alan Pollock
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Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire to
join the US or any other country.



But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem to some
westerners? Nex
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Old March 13th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Mike from Ottawa
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:26 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire to
join the US or any other country.



But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem to some
westerners? Nex


To some, sure. To others, I'm part of the solution since I want many
of the same things although I'd want to remain a Canadian.

I'd like to see an elected Senate, instead of its current state as
repository for patronage postings.

I've always thought we should have a much stronger military, simply
because of our huge coastline, among other reasons. This guy is
against any kind of military.

I like the CBC, for the most part.

Bilingualism could be more rational and be applied to areas that have
significant French popluations. Personally, French has helped me out
when travelling, and I think it's better to bi-, tri- or multi-
lingual.

I don't see much value in the monarchy anymore. The Gov Gen is more
of a huge expense than anything truly valuable. For years, I really
didn't care as long as the Brits pick up the expenses for the royals;
the problem is that we pay a lot for security when the Queen comes
over to give us the royal wave. They just tallied the cost of the Gov
Gen for the last year and it came to $41 million.

Cooperation with the US on coast guard and military matters, depending
on its extent, could easily and quickly lead to its own huge set of
problems and entanglements, leading to less, not more, autonomy.

Our trade should obviously look further than the US, given our
constant trade squabbles in which we always lose, even if the WTO
supports us. Closer economic or military ties to the US would likely
lead to domination and absorption by the US.

Over time, premiers from all provinces have been corrupt, silly or
stupid. Western/eastern/central autonomy won't change that.

I've always considered and described myself as a Canadian, not an
easterner or westerner or any other kind of label.


---
Mike from Ottawa
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Old July 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Anonymous
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:26 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire

to
join the US or any other country.


But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem

to some
westerners? Nex

To some, sure. To others, I'm part of the solution since I want many
of the same things although I'd want to remain a Canadian.

I'd like to see an elected Senate, instead of its current state as
repository for patronage postings.

I've always thought we should have a much stronger military, simply
because of our huge coastline, among other reasons. This guy is
against any kind of military.

I like the CBC, for the most part.

Bilingualism could be more rational and be applied to areas that have
significant French popluations. Personally, French has helped me out
when travelling, and I think it's better to bi-, tri- or multi-
lingual.

I don't see much value in the monarchy anymore. The Gov Gen is more
of a huge expense than anything truly valuable. For years, I really
didn't care as long as the Brits pick up the expenses for the royals;
the problem is that we pay a lot for security when the Queen comes
over to give us the royal wave. They just tallied the cost of the Gov
Gen for the last year and it came to $41 million.

Cooperation with the US on coast guard and military matters, depending
on its extent, could easily and quickly lead to its own huge set of
problems and entanglements, leading to less, not more, autonomy.

Our trade should obviously look further than the US, given our
constant trade squabbles in which we always lose, even if the WTO
supports us. Closer economic or military ties to the US would likely
lead to domination and absorption by the US.

Over time, premiers from all provinces have been corrupt, silly or
stupid. Western/eastern/central autonomy won't change that.

I've always considered and described myself as a Canadian, not an
easterner or westerner or any other kind of label.


---
Mike from Ottawa
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Old July 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Anonymous
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:26 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire

to
join the US or any other country.


But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem

to some
westerners? Nex

To some, sure. To others, I'm part of the solution since I want many
of the same things although I'd want to remain a Canadian.

I'd like to see an elected Senate, instead of its current state as
repository for patronage postings.

I've always thought we should have a much stronger military, simply
because of our huge coastline, among other reasons. This guy is
against any kind of military.

I like the CBC, for the most part.

Bilingualism could be more rational and be applied to areas that have
significant French popluations. Personally, French has helped me out
when travelling, and I think it's better to bi-, tri- or multi-
lingual.

I don't see much value in the monarchy anymore. The Gov Gen is more
of a huge expense than anything truly valuable. For years, I really
didn't care as long as the Brits pick up the expenses for the royals;
the problem is that we pay a lot for security when the Queen comes
over to give us the royal wave. They just tallied the cost of the Gov
Gen for the last year and it came to $41 million.

Cooperation with the US on coast guard and military matters, depending
on its extent, could easily and quickly lead to its own huge set of
problems and entanglements, leading to less, not more, autonomy.

Our trade should obviously look further than the US, given our
constant trade squabbles in which we always lose, even if the WTO
supports us. Closer economic or military ties to the US would likely
lead to domination and absorption by the US.

Over time, premiers from all provinces have been corrupt, silly or
stupid. Western/eastern/central autonomy won't change that.

I've always considered and described myself as a Canadian, not an
easterner or westerner or any other kind of label.


---
Mike from Ottawa
--multiplaza.nl.nu--
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Old July 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Anonymous
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:26 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire

to
join the US or any other country.


But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem

to some
westerners? Nex

To some, sure. To others, I'm part of the solution since I want many
of the same things although I'd want to remain a Canadian.

I'd like to see an elected Senate, instead of its current state as
repository for patronage postings.

I've always thought we should have a much stronger military, simply
because of our huge coastline, among other reasons. This guy is
against any kind of military.

I like the CBC, for the most part.

Bilingualism could be more rational and be applied to areas that have
significant French popluations. Personally, French has helped me out
when travelling, and I think it's better to bi-, tri- or multi-
lingual.

I don't see much value in the monarchy anymore. The Gov Gen is more
of a huge expense than anything truly valuable. For years, I really
didn't care as long as the Brits pick up the expenses for the royals;
the problem is that we pay a lot for security when the Queen comes
over to give us the royal wave. They just tallied the cost of the Gov
Gen for the last year and it came to $41 million.

Cooperation with the US on coast guard and military matters, depending
on its extent, could easily and quickly lead to its own huge set of
problems and entanglements, leading to less, not more, autonomy.

Our trade should obviously look further than the US, given our
constant trade squabbles in which we always lose, even if the WTO
supports us. Closer economic or military ties to the US would likely
lead to domination and absorption by the US.

Over time, premiers from all provinces have been corrupt, silly or
stupid. Western/eastern/central autonomy won't change that.

I've always considered and described myself as a Canadian, not an
easterner or westerner or any other kind of label.


---
Mike from Ottawa
--multiplaza.nl.nu--
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Old July 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Anonymous
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:26 +0000 (UTC), Alan Pollock
wrote:

Mike from Ottawa wrote:

Much of the original post was twaddle. Many of their wants and
grievances are shared across the country, although many westerners
like to nurse old wounds. I still see no need nor have any desire

to
join the US or any other country.


But you're from Ottawa, correct? So aren't you part of the problem

to some
westerners? Nex

To some, sure. To others, I'm part of the solution since I want many
of the same things although I'd want to remain a Canadian.

I'd like to see an elected Senate, instead of its current state as
repository for patronage postings.

I've always thought we should have a much stronger military, simply
because of our huge coastline, among other reasons. This guy is
against any kind of military.

I like the CBC, for the most part.

Bilingualism could be more rational and be applied to areas that have
significant French popluations. Personally, French has helped me out
when travelling, and I think it's better to bi-, tri- or multi-
lingual.

I don't see much value in the monarchy anymore. The Gov Gen is more
of a huge expense than anything truly valuable. For years, I really
didn't care as long as the Brits pick up the expenses for the royals;
the problem is that we pay a lot for security when the Queen comes
over to give us the royal wave. They just tallied the cost of the Gov
Gen for the last year and it came to $41 million.

Cooperation with the US on coast guard and military matters, depending
on its extent, could easily and quickly lead to its own huge set of
problems and entanglements, leading to less, not more, autonomy.

Our trade should obviously look further than the US, given our
constant trade squabbles in which we always lose, even if the WTO
supports us. Closer economic or military ties to the US would likely
lead to domination and absorption by the US.

Over time, premiers from all provinces have been corrupt, silly or
stupid. Western/eastern/central autonomy won't change that.

I've always considered and described myself as a Canadian, not an
easterner or westerner or any other kind of label.


---
Mike from Ottawa
--multiplaza.nl.nu--
 




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