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Old June 4th, 2014, 03:23 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
tim.....
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'



"Bill" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 15:40:51 +0200, "tim....."
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"Dan Leifker" wrote in message
news:2014060315532625059-daniel@dleifkercom...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-humanity.html

Depends on the airport, but in general I agree with this article.

Not all U.S. airports are wastelands. Portland (Oregon) has one of the
nicest airports I've ever visited, and San Francisco's airport is going
through a very slow remodeling that may be a sign of things to come in
21st-century U.S. airports. The new Terminal 2 at San Francisco
(domestic
travel only, sadly) is spectacular, with lots of restaurants, work
desks,
shops, and seating galore.

But the article is spot on with respect to passport control at U.S.
airports, which approaches something from Dante's Inferno. When I fly
into Frankfurt or Munich, I spend maybe 5 minutes in the Passkontrolle
line. When I return to the U.S., I deplane and literally run as fast as
I
can to get to U.S. passport control before the lines start to mass.

Thanks for link to article.


thorough the guy must have been asleep when he left

The fingerprinting is so that they can check that you left again.


Are they not bright enough to look at the passport photograph?


You "self checkout" (or at least you did, last time I was there)

tim



  #12  
Old June 4th, 2014, 04:57 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mike O'Sullivan[_2_]
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On 04/06/2014 14:09, Bill wrote:

Why do customer facing US uniformed immigration officials at
international airports carry pistols? Have any of them ever shot
anyone?


It's mandatory in the US for everyone to carry firearms. Even nuns and
traffic wardens. It's in the constitution!

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Old June 4th, 2014, 09:48 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

downside to returning to the UK on a visit is that she dreads the whole
US immigration experience on returning.


There is no preferential lane for US pass holders like we have for EU pass holders ?


At o'Hare they have more people manning the pass control for foreigners
than for US citizens every time I come back.

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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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Old June 4th, 2014, 09:48 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

Dan Leifker wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-humanity.html

Depends on the airport, but in general I agree with this article.

Not all U.S. airports are wastelands. Portland (Oregon) has one of the
nicest airports I've ever visited, and San Francisco's airport is going
through a very slow remodeling that may be a sign of things to come in
21st-century U.S. airports. The new Terminal 2 at San Francisco
(domestic travel only, sadly) is spectacular, with lots of restaurants,
work desks, shops, and seating galore.

But the article is spot on with respect to passport control at U.S.
airports, which approaches something from Dante's Inferno. When I fly
into Frankfurt or Munich, I spend maybe 5 minutes in the Passkontrolle
line. When I return to the U.S., I deplane and literally run as fast as
I can to get to U.S. passport control before the lines start to mass.

Thanks for link to article.


I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any
other country except the one time in Frankfort when I arrived on the first
Lufthansa flight after the whole volcanic ash cloud problem. That was
nothing compared to the time it took me to get OUT of O,Hare that year, of
course.
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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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Old June 5th, 2014, 10:09 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'


"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

Dan Leifker wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-humanity.html

Depends on the airport, but in general I agree with this article.

Not all U.S. airports are wastelands. Portland (Oregon) has one of the
nicest airports I've ever visited, and San Francisco's airport is going
through a very slow remodeling that may be a sign of things to come in
21st-century U.S. airports. The new Terminal 2 at San Francisco
(domestic travel only, sadly) is spectacular, with lots of restaurants,
work desks, shops, and seating galore.

But the article is spot on with respect to passport control at U.S.
airports, which approaches something from Dante's Inferno. When I fly
into Frankfurt or Munich, I spend maybe 5 minutes in the Passkontrolle
line. When I return to the U.S., I deplane and literally run as fast as
I can to get to U.S. passport control before the lines start to mass.

Thanks for link to article.


I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any
other country


Even France?


I think that you and I have convinced her of the error of her ways and she
is now a Francophile.

--
JohnT

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Old June 5th, 2014, 10:20 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:42:17 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
:

I find it harder by far to get back into the US at O'Hare than into any
other country


Even France?


I've never had any trouble getting into or out of France.

I've been to the US once, and it was a horror. I'll go back when I've won
the lottery.

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Tim C. Linz, Austria.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 07:35 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'


"Erilar" wrote in message
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Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

downside to returning to the UK on a visit is that she dreads the whole
US immigration experience on returning.


There is no preferential lane for US pass holders like we have for EU
pass holders ?


At o'Hare they have more people manning the pass control for foreigners
than for US citizens every time I come back.


At LHR they have 10 times as many desks for "foreigners" than they do for
"priority" pax

that doesn't stop the priority pax getting through in moments, whilst the
foreigners wait up to an hour

tim


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Old June 6th, 2014, 08:45 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Tim C.[_5_]
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
:

The queues aren't unique to the
USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the
airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.


Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.
--
Tim C. Linz, Austria.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:41 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Frank Hucklenbroich
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

Am Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:35:55 +0100 schrieb tim.....:

"Erilar" wrote in message
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Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

downside to returning to the UK on a visit is that she dreads the whole
US immigration experience on returning.

There is no preferential lane for US pass holders like we have for EU
pass holders ?


At o'Hare they have more people manning the pass control for foreigners
than for US citizens every time I come back.


At LHR they have 10 times as many desks for "foreigners" than they do for
"priority" pax

that doesn't stop the priority pax getting through in moments, whilst the
foreigners wait up to an hour


That seem to be a problem with the UK in general. Not long ago I went to
Newcastle by ferry from Holland. The qeues at the passport check where
quite long, and I waited about 45 minutes. I found that long, considering
that 95% of the people were German or Dutch (so no issues with visa) and
only came for a long weekend with not much luggage.

At the return trip entering Holland there was no waiting at all, they only
had a quick glimpse at the passports and waved everybody through.

Regards,

Frank
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:47 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :

:



The queues aren't unique to the


USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the


airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.




Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.

--

Tim C. Linz, Austria.


We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are virtually non-existent!
 




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