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"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert_my_surname_here wrote in message ... "Bonzo" wrote in message ... ... Traditional ones may allow changes, including an earlier flight, depending on the fare paid. It's not just whether it's economy or not, but which fare within economy. Full-fare economy (Y class?) is usually fully flexible, other fares allow flexibility within that carrier, others still have zero flexibility. The prices also affect your refund rights... Who buys full fare tickets in Economy? Those who need fully flexible tickets, mostly business travellers. If you are going to that much expense, you may as well pay the extra for Business Class. Indeed but many companies will not stump up for business class but are happy to pay the sticker price for full price economy. In september last year I had to get approval from the CEO's office to book a business class seat LHR-SFO even though it was cheaper (via a consolidator) than the flexible economy class seat on the same plane. Keith |
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"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert_my_surname_here wrote in message ... "Bonzo" wrote in message ... ... Traditional ones may allow changes, including an earlier flight, depending on the fare paid. It's not just whether it's economy or not, but which fare within economy. Full-fare economy (Y class?) is usually fully flexible, other fares allow flexibility within that carrier, others still have zero flexibility. The prices also affect your refund rights... Who buys full fare tickets in Economy? Those who need fully flexible tickets, mostly business travellers. If you are going to that much expense, you may as well pay the extra for Business Class. Indeed but many companies will not stump up for business class but are happy to pay the sticker price for full price economy. In september last year I had to get approval from the CEO's office to book a business class seat LHR-SFO even though it was cheaper (via a consolidator) than the flexible economy class seat on the same plane. Keith |
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However why they don't do it on a random basis I cannot
understand. Some other thoughts: 1) Joe Traveler *might* be willing to pay $100 to get on the earlier flight. If they gave this away for free the would be missing out on the odd $100 here and $200 there from customers who are willing to pay to be home earlier. Those pennies start adding up. 2) They remove value from their more expensive tickets. One of the value propositions of the expesive tickets is the ability to change them at no charge. If you give that value to the cheaper tickets then they lose revenue. But I agree it makes no sense when it's obvious they flight you're ticketed on is overbooked and the flight you're trying to get on has seats - They may as well put you on it. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada |
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However why they don't do it on a random basis I cannot
understand. Some other thoughts: 1) Joe Traveler *might* be willing to pay $100 to get on the earlier flight. If they gave this away for free the would be missing out on the odd $100 here and $200 there from customers who are willing to pay to be home earlier. Those pennies start adding up. 2) They remove value from their more expensive tickets. One of the value propositions of the expesive tickets is the ability to change them at no charge. If you give that value to the cheaper tickets then they lose revenue. But I agree it makes no sense when it's obvious they flight you're ticketed on is overbooked and the flight you're trying to get on has seats - They may as well put you on it. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada |
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"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." emerged from stupor
to write: wrote: 2) They remove value from their more expensive tickets. One of the value propositions of the expesive tickets is the ability to change them at no charge. If you give that value to the cheaper tickets then they lose revenue. This is the primary reason airlines don't allow standbys on cheap tickets... US airlines DO allow standbys on cheap tickets, in my experience. -- "Flight Now Leaving Reality, Please Fasten Your Braincells" |
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"Clark W. Griswold, Jr." emerged from stupor
to write: wrote: 2) They remove value from their more expensive tickets. One of the value propositions of the expesive tickets is the ability to change them at no charge. If you give that value to the cheaper tickets then they lose revenue. This is the primary reason airlines don't allow standbys on cheap tickets... US airlines DO allow standbys on cheap tickets, in my experience. -- "Flight Now Leaving Reality, Please Fasten Your Braincells" |
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"Frank F. Matthews" wrote If they fly with an empty seat they get nothing positive or negative except an empty seat on a future flight. An empty seat often means they can carry more cargo, for which they are paid. Empty passenger seats don't necessarily mean a loss of revenue. |
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"Frank F. Matthews" wrote If they fly with an empty seat they get nothing positive or negative except an empty seat on a future flight. An empty seat often means they can carry more cargo, for which they are paid. Empty passenger seats don't necessarily mean a loss of revenue. |
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"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert_my_surname_here skrev i meddelandet news Is it general policy within Europe not to allow same-day standbys, or does it vary from airline to airline or country to country?... Economy fares are usually sold on the basis that they are not transferable. Full price tickets allow flexibility. Colin Bignell Well that's the theoretical part. You can't demand a change with a not transferable ticket. But the check in staff may allow you on another flight. Such things happens now and then in Europe and have happened to me several times. As an example I was early for an check in with Finnair to Helsinki. The clerk simply asked me : "there's an earlier flight ready would you like it ? " " yes please" was my answer. Another time (SAS in Frankfurt) I negotiated a better connection when my own flight was overbooked. The airline was happy to solve a problem and I was happy with a better connection , can't be better. This is not complicated, it's a matter of one or another passenger changing and typically balanced with another change. |
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