Christmas vs "Holidays"

"jsmith" wrote in message
news:1103081068.f4c58340a6a4fb6c079c5594718575bc@s onicnews...
The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it
time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is
truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.



Christmas isn't even the birthday of Christ and was hijacked early
Christians to compete with far older pagan holidays. (Saturnus) It's the
Christians that have been substituting irrelevant religious concoctions for
perfectly wonderful pagan holidays. According to even your own bible, the
shepperds were tending their flock at the time of the birth of Christ.
This is a SPRING event, not a winter event. Additionally, the bible
clearly states that Herod was alive when Christ was born, and we know that
Herod died in 4 B.C. Given the clues in the Bible, and our current
archeological knowlege, Christ was born something in mid-April or May,
between 6 and 4 B.C.

Class is dismissed.

wrote in message
oups.com...
People always adopt local traditions, holidays and pagents
as their own. Get over it and enjoy the holidays

So, how come the salvation army bell ringers are not ringing the bell
at Target stores and the local post office this year?
.
How will we give to the poor if nobody is ringing the bell?

-Bill


There are any number of HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of local, national, and
international charities that cater to the poor. Do a google search.

"A&T" wrote in message
k.net...
We aren't sure when Christ was born, but we celebrate in on December 25.

I wish the people who still believe that Christ was born (whenever it was)
would revolt against the people trying to take it away from us.

Tricia

Only because Constantine arbitrarilly choose that date to compete with a
pre-existing Roman Holiday, Saturnus, or Saturnella.

"A&T" wrote in message
k.net...
We aren't sure when Christ was born, but we celebrate in on December 25.

I wish the people who still believe that Christ was born (whenever it was)
would revolt against the people trying to take it away from us.

Tricia

Only because Constantine arbitrarilly choose that date to compete with a
pre-existing Roman Holiday, Saturnus, or Saturnella.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:19:09 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
wrote:


"jsmith" wrote in message
news:1103081068.f4c58340a6a4fb6c079c5594718575bc@ sonicnews...
The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it
time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is
truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.



Christmas isn't even the birthday of Christ and was hijacked early
Christians to compete with far older pagan holidays. (Saturnus) It's the
Christians that have been substituting irrelevant religious concoctions for
perfectly wonderful pagan holidays. According to even your own bible, the
shepperds were tending their flock at the time of the birth of Christ.
This is a SPRING event, not a winter event.

Guess the seasons are the same now as then. I really do not know that
as a fact.

Additionally, the bible
clearly states that Herod was alive when Christ was born, and we know that
Herod died in 4 B.C. Given the clues in the Bible, and our current
archeological knowlege, Christ was born something in mid-April or May,
between 6 and 4 B.C.

If the bible is right about the dates. Translated wrong??

Class is dismissed.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:19:09 GMT, "James A. Doemer"
wrote:


"jsmith" wrote in message
news:1103081068.f4c58340a6a4fb6c079c5594718575bc@ sonicnews...
The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it
time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is
truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.



Christmas isn't even the birthday of Christ and was hijacked early
Christians to compete with far older pagan holidays. (Saturnus) It's the
Christians that have been substituting irrelevant religious concoctions for
perfectly wonderful pagan holidays. According to even your own bible, the
shepperds were tending their flock at the time of the birth of Christ.
This is a SPRING event, not a winter event.

Guess the seasons are the same now as then. I really do not know that
as a fact.

Additionally, the bible
clearly states that Herod was alive when Christ was born, and we know that
Herod died in 4 B.C. Given the clues in the Bible, and our current
archeological knowlege, Christ was born something in mid-April or May,
between 6 and 4 B.C.

If the bible is right about the dates. Translated wrong??

Class is dismissed.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:40:42 -0800, "Richard Henry"
wrote:

[snip]

We had a solar situation at work earlier this month. The building has a
long (over 600 feet), straight corridor on the second floor with glassed-in
stairways on either end. The corridor is aligned slightly south of east to
slightly north of west. On December 3, the rising sun (about 6:40) shone
right through the building from end to end. There was some talk of
sacrificing a virgin tin the coffee-room midway down the corridor; however,
there was doubt expressed that one could be found in the building.


ROTFLMAO!

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:32:01 -0500, "jsmith"
wrote:

The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.

---
Are you suggesting that we should mete out punishment to those of us
who don't behave in conformance with your wishes and religious
beliefs?

I suggest you take a look at Leviticus 19:18

--
John Fields

"jsmith" wrote

chipping away at ... Christmas ... substituting ... shopping

I am indeed sick of it. If I hear 'Frosty the Snowman' and
or anything else out of tin-pan alley when I go grocery shopping
I will scream. The commercial crud may force me into going to
the Kosher butcher at Christmas.

But, that's what one gets for trying to get a free ride by
tacking Christmas on the back of Winter Solstice. One always
pays in the end. Was ChristmasSolstice another one of Paul's
idiot ideas or was it Nicea?

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.
Remove spaces etc. to reply: n o lindan at net com dot com
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"jsmith" wrote

chipping away at ... Christmas ... substituting ... shopping

I am indeed sick of it. If I hear 'Frosty the Snowman' and
or anything else out of tin-pan alley when I go grocery shopping
I will scream. The commercial crud may force me into going to
the Kosher butcher at Christmas.

But, that's what one gets for trying to get a free ride by
tacking Christmas on the back of Winter Solstice. One always
pays in the end. Was ChristmasSolstice another one of Paul's
idiot ideas or was it Nicea?

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.
Remove spaces etc. to reply: n o lindan at net com dot com
psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/