airport to train

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:51:09 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:


"William Black" wrote in message
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jamoran wrote:
any airports where you can connect to a train ?

Gatwick, Manchester, Stansted...

If I counted correctly, there are 9 airports in the UK where you can "walk"
from the station to the airport and at least a further 4 where there is a
dedidicated bus conection.

When you consider that the UK does these things badly there is probably in
excess of 50 airports in Europe with stations, so I can't understand the
OP's scepticism


Which continent are you on?

I bet he's in the USA

I thought the same!

OP is a troll that appears every so often to rail about airport
security, how it shouldn't apply to him because he's not a terrorist,
etc. He claims to bring half-built electronics projects, scanners and
other equipment onboard, push past TSA agents and refuse to cooperate
because he doesn't feel like it or has a cold or whatever, and not to
understand the resulting hassle.

Sometimes his alternative is to drive or allegedly fly his own plane;
now he's started a few threads about how he's going to take the train
everywhere, including Phoenix to New York City to catch an
international flight, which is somehow going to be less hassle and
time than showing up 2 hours early for a domestic flight.

Same rants for YEARS, including prior to 2001 IIRC.

Josh

"jamoran" wrote in message
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any airports where you can connect to a train ?

I think from LGB, SNA, VNY, or BURm you can get bus connections to union
station

like to go from PHX to union staiion on AMTRAK and fly back

JOHN
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Amtrak serves Maricopa, which is a "suburb" of Phoenix, but not easily
reached from the airport.

In article ,
Warren Peese wrote:

BOS (connected via shuttle bus), OAK (connected via shuttle bus),
EWR (connected via EWR's AirTrain), SFO (connected via SFO's AirTrain),

A system where the airport is "connected" to the train or subway by some
scheme where you have to schlepp your stuff up and down escalators or
elevators to a shuttle stop in the terminal (after finding out where it
is); wait for said shuttle to come; schlepp your stuff onto that shuttle
vehicle; ride that vehicle to where the train or subway is; schlepp your
stuff off that vehicle; schlepp your stuff over to the right platform
for the train or subway; and finally schepp your stuff onto the train or
subway . . . is NOT a system where the terminal and the train or subway
are really connected in any meaningful sense.

AES wrote:

A system where the airport is "connected" to the train or subway by some
scheme where you have to schlepp your stuff up and down escalators or
elevators to a shuttle stop . . . is NOT a system where the terminal and the train or subway
are really connected in any meaningful sense.


Large airports, especially those with multiple terminals cannot provide
rapid transit straight from every terminal. Having a shuttle service of
some kind (bus, monorail etc) becomes unavoidable.

As long as the shuttle service is truly frequent and has equipment
designed for people with luggage, it is OK.

People haven't mentioned JFK, but their system connects to 2 rapid
transit stations.

Vancouver joined the ranks of connected cities this past summer.
http://www.canadaline.ca/aboutOverview.asp

http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Canada-Line.aspx

26 minutes between airport and waterfront in downtown vancouver.

I know Amtrack uses the UP (Union Pacific) tracks taht run from Willcox,
Benson, Sybil, Tucson Maricopa, Gila Bend, Yuma, Palm Springs, and into
Los Angeles...

what is funny is that if you call Amtrak 800-usa-rail or go to their web
and say Phoenix (PHA Amtrak code for Phoenix Airport) to Los Angeles
union station(LAX), the routing is Bus Phoenix to Flagstaff then train
from Flagstaff to Los Angeles...

does not make sense as Maricopa is closer (30 vs 120 miles) to Phoenix
than Flagstaff....

On another note, Phoenix is beginning construction on a sky-train system
to connect the terminals, parking lots and rental car facility to the
light rail system....

Down side of flying the Cessna is no onboard bathroom or flight
attendant, cold Pizza or sandwiches are teh best I can do... And of
course every thing I bring on board needs to be figured into the weight
and balance too flyting is mor fun when you are at the controls

JOHN

Jeff Hacker wrote:
"jamoran" wrote in message
.. .
any airports where you can connect to a train ?

I think from LGB, SNA, VNY, or BURm you can get bus connections to union
station

like to go from PHX to union staiion on AMTRAK and fly back

JOHN
--
JOHN

888-5-analon (888-526-2566)

computers (unix admin), chemistry, and Freggs too
I make it work. X-windows, not MSW !

Amtrak serves Maricopa, which is a "suburb" of Phoenix, but not easily
reached from the airport.




--
JOHN

888-5-analon (888-526-2566)

computers (unix admin), chemistry, and Freggs too
I make it work. X-windows, not MSW !

Shawn Hirn wrote:

PHL offers direct regional rail service.

There is a difference however between airports that have municipal
transit at airport, and airports that have intercity transit at airport.

Consider for instance CDG where you can catch a TGV to many places in
europe. Or EWR where you can catch Amtrak to PHL, Baltimore, Washington
etc. Amsterdam as well as Zurich also have integrated intercity train
service at the airport (integration all the way to checked luggage in
switzerland).

Such integration allows some airlines to codeshare with train services.

Connection to local train services (such as the JFK system) doesn't let
you code share with intercity train service.

In article ,
John Doe wrote:


There is a difference however between airports that have municipal
transit at airport, and airports that have intercity transit at airport.

Amen! And the difference is especially significant when the "muni
transport" is a bus, and the bus has to be boarded somewhere outside the
airport terminal, and mostly just takes you a short distance and drops
you somewhere outside the intercity transit.

Consider for instance CDG where you can catch a TGV to many places in
europe. Or EWR where you can catch Amtrak to PHL, Baltimore, Washington
etc. Amsterdam as well as Zurich also have integrated intercity train
service at the airport (integration all the way to checked luggage in
switzerland).

Or FRA. Or MUN (which really only takes you into the Munich Hbf, but at
least drops you right in the heart of it). Or even, God help us, LHR,
where you can again end up inside a main RR station.

In article ,
AES wrote:
In article ,
Warren Peese wrote:

BOS (connected via shuttle bus), OAK (connected via shuttle bus),
EWR (connected via EWR's AirTrain), SFO (connected via SFO's AirTrain),

A system where the airport is "connected" to the train or subway by some
scheme where you have to schlepp your stuff up and down escalators or
elevators to a shuttle stop in the terminal (after finding out where it
is); wait for said shuttle to come; schlepp your stuff onto that shuttle
vehicle; ride that vehicle to where the train or subway is; schlepp your
stuff off that vehicle; schlepp your stuff over to the right platform
for the train or subway; and finally schepp your stuff onto the train or
subway . . . is NOT a system where the terminal and the train or subway
are really connected in any meaningful sense.

I suppose. That still leaves JFK, EWR, and PHL with connections to
commuter rail (via subway-style airtrain at JFK and EWR). SFO, DCA,
ATL, ORD, MDW, and CLE all have subway stations in or adjacent to the
terminal, PDX and STL have light rail, SEA will have light rail later
this year. EWR is the only one with long distance trains and
code-shares.

BOS is debatable. There's an airport bus to the blue line subway,
roughly analogous to the one at OAK, but there's also the silver line
hybrid bus/trolley that stops at all the airport terminals, then
drives through the tunnel and turns into a trolley that conncts to the
red line subway.

R's,
John

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:59:24 -0700, "Jeff Hacker"
wrote:


"jamoran" wrote in message
. ..
any airports where you can connect to a train ?

I think from LGB, SNA, VNY, or BURm you can get bus connections to union
station

like to go from PHX to union staiion on AMTRAK and fly back

Amtrak serves Maricopa, which is a "suburb" of Phoenix, but not easily
reached from the airport.

Maricopa is too far out to even think of it as a "suburb". And it
doesn't appear that Amtrak has any shuttle into Phoenix, either.

Also, you have to realize that only three trains a week run each
way on the Sunset route.

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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:28:32 -0700, jamoran
wrote:

I know Amtrack uses the UP (Union Pacific) tracks taht run from Willcox,
Benson, Sybil, Tucson Maricopa, Gila Bend, Yuma, Palm Springs, and into
Los Angeles...

what is funny is that if you call Amtrak 800-usa-rail or go to their web
and say Phoenix (PHA Amtrak code for Phoenix Airport) to Los Angeles
union station(LAX), the routing is Bus Phoenix to Flagstaff then train
from Flagstaff to Los Angeles...

does not make sense as Maricopa is closer (30 vs 120 miles) to Phoenix
than Flagstaff....

On the other hand, there are only three trains a week through
Maricopa. Depending on the day of the week, Flag may be the only
station available.


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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *