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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
Just a note to express my not unusual
second-guessing/ambiguity/ambivalence about de-regulation: Discounter Air Tran has apparently vastly increased some of its previous low fares . Somebody yesterday tells me that a one-way Air Tran fare from Reagan to Hartsfield-Jackson is around $150. It was about half of that not many months ago, wasn't it? Suddenly, it's deja-vous all over again, Yogi. Not that I'm actually for unfettered competition, because the Delta etal bankruptcies are not in the overall public interest imho. This is not meant to be a complaint: merely my profoundly shallow political-economic obsevation as a customer rather than airplane employee. |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
On 28 Mar 2006 06:31:35 -0800, "Robert Cohen"
wrote: Just a note to express my not unusual second-guessing/ambiguity/ambivalence about de-regulation: Discounter Air Tran has apparently vastly increased some of its previous low fares . Somebody yesterday tells me that a one-way Air Tran fare from Reagan to Hartsfield-Jackson is around $150. It was about half of that not many months ago, wasn't it? Suddenly, it's deja-vous all over again, Yogi. Not that I'm actually for unfettered competition, because the Delta etal bankruptcies are not in the overall public interest imho. This is not meant to be a complaint: merely my profoundly shallow political-economic obsevation as a customer rather than airplane employee. On the other hand, it may simply be that as you get closer to the desired departure date the prices go up. I find RT fares for dates in September of $109, $114 and $154. Maybe you need to deepen that shallow political-economic sense you have there. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
fares rise closer to departures
Yes: I am told Air Tran's Savannah--Atlanta is for one way if purchased two weeks advance approximately $50+, but approx $100+ on or near its departure. I realize the jet-fool price is wayyyy upppp, and that airplane companies are in a difficult, crazy bidness, and I hope that domestic-mined coal can be converted cleanly & cheaply into airplane fuel, as per discounter Jet Blue is reported to be very much into researching. Here's what I candidly further feel/think: If an airline were to publicize/advertise they are utilizing "clean coal-derived fuel," I think I wouldn't mind (as much) paying a certain "domestic coal fuel add-on surcharge," and I'm not kidding about such. It would be the greatest gimmick since ...oh, I dunno, maybe the Swanson tv dinner or the Sky Chef airplane food tray system...no...I'm not joking about some breakthrtough or innovation that would break the oil-derived jet-fuel monopoly/oligopoly. If Aerona (just made-up silly name), The Deity of Flight really exists up in the sky, then she'll facilitate competitive enough clean coal jet fuel asap. |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
"Robert Cohen" wrote ... If an airline were to publicize/advertise they are utilizing "clean coal-derived fuel," I think I wouldn't mind (as much) paying a certain "domestic coal fuel add-on surcharge," and I'm not kidding about such. Jetfuel can be produced from domestic coal as we speak (and back during WWII, the nasty Tschermans was even able to produce - a bit - an AVGAS equivalent from that source). Texas A&M University, IIRC, possesses all the research material for such production (which could come from any manner of sources, including the grease tank at your local MickyDs. There's a simple problem in the CoalJet Fuel process, the cost of energy to do so, making the actual cost of the fuel much higher than the stuff off the catcracker tower down at your neighborhood refinery. Were oil to reach a $100 a barrel and other commodity prices stay close to today's levels, oil from Canada's tar sands becomes the most realistic energy source. TMO |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
Tar Sands
Many years ago when I heard about the Alberta tar sands--and subsequently heard of the Nevada--Wyoming (?) tar sands--I and others thought: in order to get/melt 'em, nuke 'em. If the nuke is not the kind that is radioactive, I'd be fer it. I'm sure it's a lot more complex to distill/refine/separate than simply heat-melting the stuff, because it woulda already be done, wouldn't it? |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
Oil a hundred dollars U.S. per 40 (44?) gallon barrel
Well, the financial cost itself of the Iraq war & the war on terrorism seemingly make oil more costly than that $100 figure. I know. I know. . It's more involved/complex than merely about oil. Nevertheless the afore concession: There are not a few who think that o-i-l is actually costing much, much , much more than that $50--$60 per barrel current spot market, and I is included with them simplistic minds. |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
Robert Cohen wrote:
Oil a hundred dollars U.S. per 40 (44?) gallon barrel Average them out and you will get the answer 42. |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
"TOliver" wrote:
There's a simple problem in the CoalJet Fuel process, the cost of energy to do so, making the actual cost of the fuel much higher than the stuff off the catcracker tower down at your neighborhood refinery. Were oil to reach a $100 a barrel and other commodity prices stay close to today's levels, oil from Canada's tar sands becomes the most realistic energy source. The economics I've seen suggest that coal liquefaction is competitive with $40 per barrel oil. The state of Illinois is testing that assumption by building a plant to boost the economy of the southern part of the state. The governor of Montana is also a proponent of using coal to make liquid fuels, and is stumping for support, both financial and political, to build a plant in that state as well. |
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Cut-Throat Competition --- De-Regulation Is Good (?)
In article ,
TOliver wrote: Were oil to reach a $100 a barrel and other commodity prices stay close to today's levels, oil from Canada's tar sands becomes the most realistic energy source. Geologically, the Alberta tar sands are the same as the Orinoco oil sands, whence most Venezuelan oil is pumped. The difference is the ambient temperature. Both are different from coal beds, where coal can be mined. -- Randy Hudson |
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