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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting
Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England. Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but part of the foul picture. Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada, with all the murders, rapes, robberies, theft of travellers' cars and trailers where they lose everything. Quite apart from the expensive 50 km. trip to Edmonton from the Leduc airport because the mayor and some developers want to make millions by closing the city center airport. Just a few reasons to AVOID ALBERTA. Save your money and visit some of the states in Northern USA. Your money will go much further, since prices in USA are much lower than in price-fixing Canada! |
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Avoid "Runge" Campaign Goes Worldwide...!!!
On Aug 18, 10:37*am, Bert Hyman wrote:
Innews wrote: Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada Hey! I'm sure that Alberta's not the only place with bad weather. Hehe...try the "weather" in Runge's banlieu.... LOL... -- Best Greg |
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morrow wakes up
hoho greg morrow the moron, back on his connexion thanks to his pension
""Ring For Durex"" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : ... On Aug 18, 10:37 am, Bert Hyman wrote: Innews wrote: Mention that Edmonton Alberta is the rime capital for Canada Hey! I'm sure that Alberta's not the only place with bad weather. Hehe...try the "weather" in Runge's banlieu.... LOL... -- Best Greg |
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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
In message RoddNSue
was claimed to have wrote: The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England. Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but part of the foul picture. Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars. Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be a tourist anyway. Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east? Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska? |
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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
On 19/08/10 9:19 AM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In RoddNSue was claimed to have wrote: The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England. Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but part of the foul picture. Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars. Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be a tourist anyway. Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east? Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska? Alberta is a great place to visit. Banff, Jasper, and of course the Royal Tyrrell Museum near Drumheller. Never been to Edmonton, as I could care less about the largest mall in North America. Still, extracting oil from the oil sands has got to be the most insane way to obtain low quality oil at tremendous costs both for the fuel itself, and for the environment. If the producer nations of high quality crude would come to their senses, and do what's best for their own long term economic interests, oil would be priced at a level where the oil sands would be abandoned, around $50 a barrel. |
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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
In message SMS
was claimed to have wrote: On 19/08/10 9:19 AM, DevilsPGD wrote: In RoddNSue was claimed to have wrote: The international campaign to disourage travellers from visiting Alberta Canada is now advising potential tourists in London England. Pictures of the terrible situation at the Alberta oilsands are but part of the foul picture. Speaking as a native Albertan, I can assure you that us Albertans would rather have the oil sands than tourist dollars from idiots whining about fossil fuels while supporting us with your dollars. Free clue: if you're not a fossil fuel consumer, you're not going to be a tourist anyway. Seriously, where would you like to get the oil? From the middle east? Maybe of the Gulf of Mexico? Tanker it in from Alaska? Alberta is a great place to visit. Banff, Jasper, and of course the Royal Tyrrell Museum near Drumheller. Yup. Never been to Edmonton, as I could care less about the largest mall in North America. You could? Personally, I couldn't care less about it. Still, extracting oil from the oil sands has got to be the most insane way to obtain low quality oil at tremendous costs both for the fuel itself, and for the environment. I'll see your oil sands and raise you one Gulf of Mexico. If the producer nations of high quality crude would come to their senses, and do what's best for their own long term economic interests, oil would be priced at a level where the oil sands would be abandoned, around $50 a barrel. How would that make sense? At $50/barrel consumption would increase, driving processing costs up significantly which would result in significant investment in refineries being needed, costing a lot of short-term revenue to build the refineries now while simultaneously burning through their long-term revenue generator. Those with the ability to produce cheap oil are better off selling at $80-$150/barrel and pocketing the difference without really caring about the oil sands with their much higher production and processing overhead. The biggest long-term threat to the large scale oil producers isn't other oil, but rather, an alternative becoming cheaper (and worse, a sustainable one) Consider what would happen to oil if tomorrow someone announced a cheap, sustainable/low-environmental-impact, high-capacity high-energy-density (low weight:energy and size:energy ratio) battery; suddenly inconsistently available solar, wave and wind farms could provide steady reliable power. Not only could they do so to homes but also for cars and trucks and Things That Go. Sure, it would take a good long while for the world to change over to a new energy source, but if we found a method of storing and transporting energy with the energy density of fossil fuels the energy source wouldn't matter and whatever was the cheapest source of the day would rule. In other words, fossil fuels would end up directly competing with every other energy source. Short of a breakthrough, the demand for oil will never disappear so there is little need to charge less than the market will support. As supplies run low, the demand will increase and prices will to match, oilsands (along with other more difficult to collect sources) will become more economical with oil eventually becoming so expensive that few can afford to use it and no one can afford to waste it, making alternatives practical. In the short term though, there is little value in selling below what the market will support, at best you'll just delay the competition oilsands brings and at a far higher cost than a bit of extra competition. |
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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
The oil, once obtained, is of high quality. it goes through a up-grader.
The oilsands, over a period of time, will use new techniques to ease the environmental impact. Before the oilsands where ever used to obtain oil, vast natural areas of oil contaminated land in Alberta would result in coating and killing birds if and when they landed in it. Nature and natural environment has never been the soft sweet sound of romantic violins sunsets sometimes evoke. Insanity is drilling for oil deep in the gulf, within the territorial waters of the USA, without proper safeguards. The cost per barrel from that well will work out to be considerably more than any obtained from any one of the oilsand projects. ds |
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Avoid Alberta Campaign Goes Worldwide
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Dee Silverman wrote: .... Insanity is drilling for oil deep in the gulf, within the territorial waters of the USA, without proper safeguards. The cost per barrel from that well will work out to be considerably more than any obtained from any one of the oilsand projects. I agree with your basic premise, but the fact is that BP won't lose any money on the gulf deal. They will write off any losses. Face it, nobody's going to allow the British teachers to suffer as a result of the BP disaster. -- "The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic statements? Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say: that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ... |
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