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Old October 22nd, 2011, 02:50 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Using electronic devices during take-off and landing (was: idiotic"CyberFlying")

mag3 wrote:

I think even the TSA knows that it's impossible to ban all
electronics in this "electronic age." At minimum, Fob keys
for your car,


For a while in the UK a few years ago they were banning pretty much ALL
carry-ons. People were getting screwed because they couldn't even take
their car keys on the plane with them.

cell phones/blackberries, laptops, all must all be allowed,


During the year or two after 9/11, I remember that a lot of people were
getting screwed over by airport security because they were forcing
people to turn on their electronic **** to prove that they worked and
were not bombs. A lot of people don't necessarily have their
electronics ready to be able to be turned on like that. They may not
have all the necessary cables, or have their batteries charged up.

Eventually they stopped doing this.

Why sadly? They have real issues to worry about, non-safety
related rules aren't worth their effort at this point in the
flight.


Say that the next time Al Qaeda gets an IED made like a camcorder
or cell/blackberry through and is able to detonate it.


It's a big joke, all this fretting over carry-on dangerous stuff.

Here's the biggest joke:

All during 2006 there were media reports that come January 2007, all
checked bags would be scanned and most of them opened somewhere during
the check-in process. You were told not to lock your checked bags.

So if there really are bad people with plans to bring something on a
plane - don't you think they'd do it with a bomb in the luggage? It's
trivial to have a short-distance transmitter-receiver (garage door
opener, or toy R/C controller) to rig up so that you can press a button
while seated on the plane and your luggage sitting maybe 50 feet from
you in the cargo hold blows up.

So if you're planning such an attack, don't you want to do it before all
this luggage-scanning bull**** starts?

You know it's going to start January 2007, so if you're going to blow up
a plane using a bomb in the luggage, you've got 6 months in the clear to
do it.

Well? Did anyone notice any plane getting blown up with a luggage bomb
in 2006?

I rest my case (or - I rest my luggage).

All the security bull**** since 9/11 has cost people and our economy far
more than even losing a few planes a year to terrorism.

More people die in car accidents every year than died on 9/11.

More people have died in plane crashes related to maintainence
negligence, bad equipment-design or operational practice, and human
error than died on 9/11.

The financial cost and numerous cases of personal grief and
inconveinence and lack of constitutional legal recourse (getting screwed
by no fly lists, having stuff stolen from unlocked checked bags and even
during gate-screening) caused by this ever increasing airport security
mania is unconscionable.

I have no doubt that one perhaps not-so-small reason for our economy
tanking during the past 5-6 years is the reduction in business travel
caused by this needless security mania and associated costs and hassles
which severely reduces the attractiveness or desirability of air travel
for people that used to be frequent fliers.
 




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