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On Wed, 23 May 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT), unfrostedpoptart
wrote: On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:13:20 PM UTC-7, Go Fig wrote: Convinced that the stores on their easy-to-follow map will lead them to the greatest onshore deals, the eager tourists are unaware that the cruise line's recommendations are driven solely by profit. They are unaware that the maps are leading them to stores whose revenue goes straight back to the ship. Before cruise passengers go onshore to one of their ship's destinations, they are given shopping lectures and store maps with the industry's recommendations for the best deals and the highest quality products. But what the passengers aren't told is that these stores have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual fees to be listed. If the people were paying attention (or weren't so greedy), or if they had ever been to a cruise ship destination like Cozumel when they were not on a cruise, this wouldn't be a surprise to them. It's no worse than those art auctions. |
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:45:28 -0400, Bill
wrote: On 5/28/2012 9:42 AM, wrote: If the people were paying attention (or weren't so greedy), or if they had ever been to a cruise ship destination like Cozumel when they were not on a cruise, this wouldn't be a surprise to them. It's no worse than those art auctions. What would they have heard if they were paying attention? Would they have heard the shopping guide saying "All these places have paid the cruise line to be included in this program and our map"? And are you saying that if you haven't been to Cozumel before, it's OK if you get ripped off? And what does greed have to do with it? I guess I am just cynical. But I talk to local people and they will freely tell me what the deal is. Everyone who cruises says - don't take the ship tours, you can do it more cheaply on your own (which is true in a lot of cases). The reason for that is that the tour companies pay the cruise lines so that they can have the privilege of doing the tours. When I talk to the tour guides, they tell me all about it. In Ketchikan and other Alaskan ports, the guides emphasized what stores were local - Alaskans resent those Diamond International people who come for the season and then leave. The Caribbean folks are more resigned about it so you may not hear as much from them. The shopping stuff is the same. If you think about it - why would the ship want to steer you to certain stores if there is nothing it in for them? If they don't get a kickback - why bother? It isn't just altrustism on their part. They cover it up with the business about the recommended stores being guaranteed but that's a smoke screen for the real reason.. Cozumel is just an example - St Thomas would be the same or any of the cruise ship ports. In Cozumel when I went into a store they wanted to know right up front what ship I was from. Why would they ask that? They aren't just being friendly. The greed is people wanting to buy stuff on the cheap. They are trying to fool the vendor into giving them more than they are paying for. If they weren't focused so much on getting a bargain, they might think a little more about it. When I shop, I almost never shop at the 'recommended' shops, and I don't believe in buying expensive high-end items on a cruise. I see no point in buying electronics or cameras in the Caribbean. I buy locally produced items as much as possible - the kinds of things I can't get from a catalog or an internet store. I was on a Celebrity cruise a few months ago and there was no art auction. I kind of missed it, if only for the entertainment value of seeing other people bidding. \ |
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 01:59:34 -0400, Bill
wrote: On 5/29/2012 10:08 AM, wrote: The greed is people wanting to buy stuff on the cheap. They are trying to fool the vendor into giving them more than they are paying for. If they weren't focused so much on getting a bargain, they might think a little more about it. It's not greed, it's good old fashioned bargain hunting and wanting to get the best deal possible. And it's become more popular of late with the problems with the economy. It is greed. And the markets where people bargain and think they get the better of the vendor - the vendor just lets them think that. If the vendor did not make a profit, they wouldn't stay in business. Old fashioned bargain hunting is going to yard sales or comparison shopping. I don't believe that any stores in the cruise ship ports are giving any kind of good deal if they have to pay the ship a kickback, which they do. If you enjoy walking into a store and paying the regular price on the tag, more power to you. It's people like you who allow those of us who are price conscious to save money. I have to say up front that I do not like to shop. My husband is the shopper in the family. I sometimes buy some small useful item (if possible a local product) as a gift for family when I'm on a trip, but most of my grandchildren are too old to be happy to get those kinds of things now. I also found in Cozumel specifically that the cruise ship recommended stores had fixed prices but the stores on the back streets(which the cruise ship shopper said were unsafe and no one should go there) were willing to bargain. I have also been in a bargaining situation at one of those flea markets and asked the woman if I bought three of the items that $3.00 each, how much of a discount she could give me. She said she would give me three for $12.00. I don't know if she thought I wouldn't have enough fingers to figure out that $12 for three items would be $4.00 each or what. |
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article , It seems that every big cruise ship terminal in the Caribbean has a Diamonds International and a few other regularly-encountered stores. Does CCL own these stores? Not just the Caribbean! The same stores are in the Alaskan ports. Disgusting to get to the small Alaskan towns like Skagway and see these vultures who prey off of cruise passengers in most of the storefronts. -- Charles |
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On 5/28/2012 2:31 PM, Charles wrote:
Orval wrote: In , It seems that every big cruise ship terminal in the Caribbean has a Diamonds International and a few other regularly-encountered stores. Does CCL own these stores? Not just the Caribbean! The same stores are in the Alaskan ports. Disgusting to get to the small Alaskan towns like Skagway and see these vultures who prey off of cruise passengers in most of the storefronts. Those stores have ruined Alaska and the Caribbean. I remember stopping at some of the Caribbean Islands in the late 80's and early 90's and they were wonderful. Now they are little more than water sports and shopping centers. Sad. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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