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Hi,
I am a dual Irish/Canadian citizen living in the EU. Recently I returned to visit a friend in the USA. I had checked in at a Schengen airport here in the EU on my Irish passport, and when I arrived at US immigration I used my Canadian one (canadians can visit the US for longer periods). The immigration lady asked me if I had two passports. (I figured out later she had access to my manefest). I said yes, when in Europe I travel on my Irish passport. She asked a few more questions than usual but eventually let me go ahead. I did the reverse on the way back, checked in to the US airport on my Canadian and went through Schengen immigration with my Irish, and they obviously did not check with the manifest. Looking back on it I could have checked in to the Schengen airport with my Canadian passport to make things easier in terms of my manifest matching when I arrive at US immigration. But before I start doing that I wanted to ask the following questions: 1. Will EU airports hastle me checking in on a Canadian passport with no stamps? 2. For the passport control (exit control) booths that follow just before the gate at Schengen airports, do I show the Canadian one that I just checked in on, will they hassel me for no stamps?; or my Irish since I entered the EU on my Irish? 3. If it is ok to use my Irish, does the exit control check it against the passport I checked in on? 4. Does the UK have exit control? Or just Schengen? For the UK if it does have exit control is the answer to 2. and 3; the same for the UK? 5. Which is a better situation to be in, explaining to US immigration why your manifest doesn't match with the passport I am entering the US on (which I just had to do), or having to explain why my Canadian passport has no EU stamps on it? Which is more correct? Does it matter? 6. I know Schengen doesnt bother with the manefest check; but if I travel back through the UK do the UK immegration do a manifest check? Regarding 6 If the UK doesnt I will always exit the USA with the one I entered on (Canadian) and switch to Irish when arriving both in UK and Schengen, to avoid the US airline to be confused why I dont have a visa waiver stamp in the passport I am checking in on (I figure its best to keep it simple while in the US), (Canadians dont get this stamp since our no visa requirement is a part of another agreement). Thanks for your help Sam |
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In message , Sam Lowry
writes Looking back on it I could have checked in to the Schengen airport with my Canadian passport to make things easier in terms of my manifest matching when I arrive at US immigration. But before I start doing that I wanted to ask the following questions: 1. Will EU airports hastle me checking in on a Canadian passport with no stamps? Not very likely, and if they do just show your Irish passport as well. 2. For the passport control (exit control) booths that follow just before the gate at Schengen airports, do I show the Canadian one that I just checked in on, will they hassel me for no stamps?; or my Irish since I entered the EU on my Irish? They're not likely to be much bothered. 3. If it is ok to use my Irish, does the exit control check it against the passport I checked in on? 4. Does the UK have exit control? Or just Schengen? For the UK if it does have exit control is the answer to 2. and 3; the same for the UK? UK abolished exit controls in 1997. 5. Which is a better situation to be in, explaining to US immigration why your manifest doesn't match with the passport I am entering the US on (which I just had to do), or having to explain why my Canadian passport has no EU stamps on it? Which is more correct? Does it matter? Doesn't matter. You may prefer to minimise your risk of hassle with the US immigration, since by reputation they seem to be the more obnoxious, and European immigration officers are perfectly familiar with the concept of dual nationality! 6. I know Schengen doesnt bother with the manefest check; but if I travel back through the UK do the UK immegration do a manifest check? Regarding 6 If the UK doesnt I will always exit the USA with the one I entered on (Canadian) and switch to Irish when arriving both in UK and Schengen, to avoid the US airline to be confused why I dont have a visa waiver stamp in the passport I am checking in on (I figure its best to keep it simple while in the US), (Canadians dont get this stamp since our no visa requirement is a part of another agreement). -- Arwel Parry http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/ |
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I suspect that in this era of security paranoia you will occasionally
get a look see no matter what you do when switching. I suspect that your best bet is to be above board. They'll really freak out if they catch you lying about anything. Since the transitions are legal they shouldn't care much after checking. As to the choice at the departure point it might depend on the time available at each end. If folks get really paranoid about visa overstays it would be a good idea to keep a permanent record of exiting each place. If you have an exit stamp in the other passport that should do. You might ask for an exit stamp even if they don't normally do one just so you can prove you didn't overstay. FFM Sam Lowry wrote: Hi, I am a dual Irish/Canadian citizen living in the EU. Recently I returned to visit a friend in the USA. I had checked in at a Schengen airport here in the EU on my Irish passport, and when I arrived at US immigration I used my Canadian one (canadians can visit the US for longer periods). The immigration lady asked me if I had two passports. (I figured out later she had access to my manefest). I said yes, when in Europe I travel on my Irish passport. She asked a few more questions than usual but eventually let me go ahead. I did the reverse on the way back, checked in to the US airport on my Canadian and went through Schengen immigration with my Irish, and they obviously did not check with the manifest. Looking back on it I could have checked in to the Schengen airport with my Canadian passport to make things easier in terms of my manifest matching when I arrive at US immigration. But before I start doing that I wanted to ask the following questions: 1. Will EU airports hastle me checking in on a Canadian passport with no stamps? 2. For the passport control (exit control) booths that follow just before the gate at Schengen airports, do I show the Canadian one that I just checked in on, will they hassel me for no stamps?; or my Irish since I entered the EU on my Irish? 3. If it is ok to use my Irish, does the exit control check it against the passport I checked in on? 4. Does the UK have exit control? Or just Schengen? For the UK if it does have exit control is the answer to 2. and 3; the same for the UK? 5. Which is a better situation to be in, explaining to US immigration why your manifest doesn't match with the passport I am entering the US on (which I just had to do), or having to explain why my Canadian passport has no EU stamps on it? Which is more correct? Does it matter? 6. I know Schengen doesnt bother with the manefest check; but if I travel back through the UK do the UK immegration do a manifest check? Regarding 6 If the UK doesnt I will always exit the USA with the one I entered on (Canadian) and switch to Irish when arriving both in UK and Schengen, to avoid the US airline to be confused why I dont have a visa waiver stamp in the passport I am checking in on (I figure its best to keep it simple while in the US), (Canadians dont get this stamp since our no visa requirement is a part of another agreement). Thanks for your help Sam |
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The UK does not normally have exit checks at the moment. However, I recall
a news story saying it was going to be reintroduced and at LHR T1 last week I noticed there were some new desks just after security marked or immigration. -- ***** *****The "return to" address embedded in this mail is wrong as an antispam measure. Please address new mails or replies to edwarddotharrison1atbtinternetdotcom replacing dot with a . and at with an @***** ***** |
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![]() "Sam Lowry" schreef in bericht om... Hi, I am a dual Irish/Canadian citizen living in the EU. Recently I returned to visit a friend in the USA. I had checked in at a Schengen airport here in the EU on my Irish passport, and when I arrived at US immigration I used my Canadian one (canadians can visit the US for longer periods). The immigration lady asked me if I had two passports. (I figured out later she had access to my manefest). I said yes, when in Europe I travel on my Irish passport. She asked a few more questions than usual but eventually let me go ahead. I did the reverse on the way back, checked in to the US airport on my Canadian and went through Schengen immigration with my Irish, and they obviously did not check with the manifest. Looking back on it I could have checked in to the Schengen airport with my Canadian passport to make things easier in terms of my manifest matching when I arrive at US immigration. But before I start doing that I wanted to ask the following questions: 1. Will EU airports hastle me checking in on a Canadian passport with no stamps? Not the airports, but the exit passport control people may ask why you don't have an entry stamp. At that point, you may just wave your Irish passport. 2. For the passport control (exit control) booths that follow just before the gate at Schengen airports, do I show the Canadian one that I just checked in on, will they hassel me for no stamps?; or my Irish since I entered the EU on my Irish? See answer to 1. You can show both passports if you like. 3. If it is ok to use my Irish, does the exit control check it against the passport I checked in on? No. 4. Does the UK have exit control? Or just Schengen? For the UK if it does have exit control is the answer to 2. and 3; the same for the UK? As far as I know, the UK doesn't have exit control, but see a previous post in this thread. 5. Which is a better situation to be in, explaining to US immigration why your manifest doesn't match with the passport I am entering the US on (which I just had to do), or having to explain why my Canadian passport has no EU stamps on it? Which is more correct? Does it matter? Just show both passports and everything should be OK. 6. I know Schengen doesnt bother with the manefest check; but if I travel back through the UK do the UK immegration do a manifest check? Don't know. For what it is worth, a have a friend with dual Singaporean/Swiss nationality that lives in Amsterdam and he always shows both passports at immigration here. He never had a problem. Sjoerd |
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![]() "Frank F. Matthews" wrote in message ... 4. Does the UK have exit control? No Keith |
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Sam Lowry wrote:
6. I know Schengen doesnt bother with the manefest check; but if I travel back through the UK do the UK immegration do a manifest check? I regularly leave the US on a US passport, and enter the UK on a British passport. All I do is wave the open passport at the Immigration official, and walk on through. The only time I ever had the hint of a problem was years ago, when the UK still did exit checks - I accidentally handed my US passport over, and the official was quite perturbed at not finding an entry stamp. I showed him my British passport, and was scolded for not exiting with the same document I had used on entering. |
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I am a dual Irish/Canadian citizen living in the EU. Recently I
returned to visit a friend in the USA. (snip) 1. Will EU airports hastle me checking in on a Canadian passport with no stamps? They shouldn't. But if they question why there are no stamps just explain that you're also an Irish citizen and if they want to see proof, show them your Irish passport at that time. 2. For the passport control (exit control) booths that follow just before the gate at Schengen airports, do I show the Canadian one that I just checked in on, will they hassel me for no stamps?; or my Irish since I entered the EU on my Irish? Show your Irish passport since that would be the passport on which you entered the Schengen area with. 3. If it is ok to use my Irish, does the exit control check it against the passport I checked in on? I don't believe so. But if they do, you may have to show both. At this point, show your Irish passport first, and if the were to question why there is no Irish citizen with your name on any travel manifest, then you can also show them your Canadian passport. Having two passports will not freak them out. Dual citizenship is more common than people think. 4. Does the UK have exit control? They used to, but not anymore. For the UK if it does have exit control is the answer to 2. and 3; the same for the UK? Just for information, when the UK did have exit control, my cousin, a dual US/British citizen would check in on US bound flights with his US passport, and present his British passport to exit control. There were never any questions. 5. Which is a better situation to be in, explaining to US immigration why your manifest doesn't match with the passport I am entering the US on (which I just had to do), or having to explain why my Canadian passport has no EU stamps on it? Which is more correct? Does it matter? The airline is required to transmit the passport information to US immigration, so you should present the same passport to the airline and to US immigration. The US immigration inspector does not routinely look find the stamps from the country you just left. If he did question you as to why there were no stamps in your Canadian passport, you can then tell him that you're also an Irish citizen, and show your Irish passport to him if he asks to see it. Stephen Gallagher |
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Emilia wrote: Even so, upon entry to the EU with his Canadian passport is unlikely he will get stamped, thus having no stamp upon entering the US. Depends on country. Germany and France seem tohave given up, but not Austria, U.K. and Italy. |
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