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On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote: Dan Stephenson wrote: On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said: I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner. I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector. Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they selected people to use them? .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. I've undergone both, at various times, and have no serious objection to either. I've never found the "body pat-down" to be intrusive. At worst, it was time-consuming. -- Ken Blake |
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On 8/9/2011 3:07 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Dan wrote: On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said: I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner. I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector. Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they selected people to use them? .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. I've undergone both, at various times, and have no serious objection to either. I've never found the "body pat-down" to be intrusive. At worst, it was time-consuming. Mostly I find the pat-down annoying - but once, I was randomly selected for a secondary security check at the gate - the pat-down was so thorough it should have been preceded by an engagement party... |
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Johannes Kleese wrote:
Erilar wrote: .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. A body pat-down is usually only done if the metal scanners indicate you have anything metallic on you. Some body scanners, however, produce an image that resembles you being naked, or at least might reveal other things quite personal (elderly person having to wear diapers, somebody with an ostomy?). If body scanners are introduced, everbody will have to go through them. So the choice is rather no pat-down vs. being seen naked. It's ok if you don't mind being naked, but quite a few do. Any total stranger thrilled by a sight of my ancient body is someone I'm more than a bit unlikely to care a proverbial fig for. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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On 8/9/2011 4:26 PM, Erilar wrote:
Johannes wrote: Erilar wrote: .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. A body pat-down is usually only done if the metal scanners indicate you have anything metallic on you. Some body scanners, however, produce an image that resembles you being naked, or at least might reveal other things quite personal (elderly person having to wear diapers, somebody with an ostomy?). If body scanners are introduced, everbody will have to go through them. So the choice is rather no pat-down vs. being seen naked. It's ok if you don't mind being naked, but quite a few do. Any total stranger thrilled by a sight of my ancient body is someone I'm more than a bit unlikely to care a proverbial fig for. There is no reason why the scanner operator or the image should be visible to travellers and any audible disparaging comments by operators should be grounds for dismissal. -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
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James Silverton wrote:
On 8/9/2011 4:26 PM, Erilar wrote: Johannes wrote: Erilar wrote: .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. A body pat-down is usually only done if the metal scanners indicate you have anything metallic on you. Some body scanners, however, produce an image that resembles you being naked, or at least might reveal other things quite personal (elderly person having to wear diapers, somebody with an ostomy?). If body scanners are introduced, everbody will have to go through them. So the choice is rather no pat-down vs. being seen naked. It's ok if you don't mind being naked, but quite a few do. Any total stranger thrilled by a sight of my ancient body is someone I'm more than a bit unlikely to care a proverbial fig for. There is no reason why the scanner operator or the image should be visible to travellers and any audible disparaging comments by operators should be grounds for dismissal. Exactly why I find this scanner paranoia silly 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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On 8/9/2011 6:18 PM, Martin wrote:
wrote: Mostly I find the pat-down annoying - but once, I was randomly selected for a secondary security check at the gate - the pat-down was so thorough it should have been preceded by an engagement party... :-) Did he have to marry you? She. No. My husband wouldn't have been happy about that... |
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On Aug 8, 11:56*pm, Dan Stephenson wrote:
My plans were to visit Europe again in October, but it has come to my attention that the use of those body scanners has become common since the attempted bombing of that flight to Detroit last Christmas 2009. * My last flight was prior to that. So I called the Athens airport and spoke to their security people who said that they had the scanners and their use was required, and furthermore that this was to be found in the other airports in Europe. This sounds incredible but it is plausible. *Can anyone confirm this at your local big airport? *My googling only turned up EU regular that "permitted" the scanners and a lot of talk of health issues. *But that is all. -- Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) I've never seen any such scanners at Stuttgart Airport. I was scanned 3-4 years ago at Amsterdam on a flight from there to Stuttgart, and it was mandatory (or at least that was what the security personnel said). George |
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martin naked in an airport ?
Ugly. "Martin" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : ... On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:43:52 -0400, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/9/2011 6:18 PM, Martin wrote: wrote: Mostly I find the pat-down annoying - but once, I was randomly selected for a secondary security check at the gate - the pat-down was so thorough it should have been preceded by an engagement party... :-) Did he have to marry you? She. No. My husband wouldn't have been happy about that... Thank gawd for that. -- Martin |
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On 2011-08-09 15:26:48 -0500, Erilar said:
Johannes Kleese wrote: Erilar wrote: .?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip. A body pat-down is usually only done if the metal scanners indicate you have anything metallic on you. Some body scanners, however, produce an image that resembles you being naked, or at least might reveal other things quite personal (elderly person having to wear diapers, somebody with an ostomy?). If body scanners are introduced, everbody will have to go through them. So the choice is rather no pat-down vs. being seen naked. It's ok if you don't mind being naked, but quite a few do. Any total stranger thrilled by a sight of my ancient body is someone I'm more than a bit unlikely to care a proverbial fig for. So, you don't know what the body scanner situation is in the Athens airport? -- Dan Stephenson http://web.mac.com/stepheda Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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