CNN: US bars KLM flight entry into airspace

'Flight 685 from Amsterdam to Mexico City was denied
permission to fly south across the Canada-U.S. border
on Friday because the names of two passengers aboard
were included on a U.S. "no-fly" terrorist watch list,
KLM spokesman Bart Koster said.'

The flight returned to Amsterdam. Full details at CNN.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/10/klm.flight/index.html

"Gary L. Dare" wrote in message
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'Flight 685 from Amsterdam to Mexico City was denied
permission to fly south across the Canada-U.S. border
on Friday because the names of two passengers aboard
were included on a U.S. "no-fly" terrorist watch list,
KLM spokesman Bart Koster said.'

The flight returned to Amsterdam. Full details at CNN.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/10/klm.flight/index.html

Quite horrible for the pax. And they weren't even landing in the US. Does
any know if any US airlines have ever been turned back?

It must be a huge cost to the airline.

Andrew

"Gary L. Dare" wrote:

'Flight 685 from Amsterdam to Mexico City was denied
permission to fly south across the Canada-U.S. border
on Friday because the names of two passengers aboard
were included on a U.S. "no-fly" terrorist watch list,
KLM spokesman Bart Koster said.'

The flight returned to Amsterdam. Full details at CNN.com:


So now the USA requires personal information about individuals who don't
even plan to enter the USA ? This, from a countryu whose citizens
refuiised the concept of an identity card !

What bugs me about the story is the concept of the flight returning to Amsterdam.

How long after departure did the Bush regime decide to bar the flight
from US airspace ? You'd think the flight would have landed in canada,
taken the 2 innocent victims out and then let them decide where they
want to go next, allowing flight to resume to Mexico City, or better
yet, have the flight land in NewFoundland, and then detour around the
USA to reach mexico city, thereby avoiding the US regime's demands. In
fact, looking at the great circle display, it doesn't seem like such a
big detour.

Heck, the flight might have had the range to detour to Havana, refuel
there and then go to Mexico City.

Ironic that as the old soviet union and china open up their airspaces to
foreign airlines, the USA is closing its airspace.

I have wondered if Canada could help the US with taking
on more transit business (already happening as people are
booking flights to/from Latin America but it 's not the air
carriers setting up the itineraries) with the transit visas
issue. Heck, maybe enough to re-open Mirabel for the
express purpose of transit! But with this behavior, it
is iffier ...

gld

I have wondered if Canada could help the US with taking
on more transit business (already happening as people are
booking flights to/from Latin America but it 's not the air
carriers setting up the itineraries) with the transit visas
issue. Heck, maybe enough to re-open Mirabel for the
express purpose of transit! But with this behavior, it
is iffier ...

gld

Good. Someone is doing their job.

"Gary L. Dare" wrote in message
...
'Flight 685 from Amsterdam to Mexico City was denied
permission to fly south across the Canada-U.S. border
on Friday because the names of two passengers aboard
were included on a U.S. "no-fly" terrorist watch list,
KLM spokesman Bart Koster said.'

The flight returned to Amsterdam. Full details at CNN.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/10/klm.flight/index.html

Good. Someone is doing their job.

"Gary L. Dare" wrote in message
...
'Flight 685 from Amsterdam to Mexico City was denied
permission to fly south across the Canada-U.S. border
on Friday because the names of two passengers aboard
were included on a U.S. "no-fly" terrorist watch list,
KLM spokesman Bart Koster said.'

The flight returned to Amsterdam. Full details at CNN.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/10/klm.flight/index.html

JJ wrote:

Good. Someone is doing their job.

What job is that? Panicking because someone with the name of Muhammed
Islam, or something similar, is on the plane? Meanwhile, several
hundred people a day enter the US illegally from Mexico.

"James Robinson" wrote in message
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JJ wrote:

Good. Someone is doing their job.

What job is that? Panicking because someone with the name of Muhammed
Islam, or something similar, is on the plane? Meanwhile, several
hundred people a day enter the US illegally from Mexico.

I read the report as saying that the flight was turned back because two
people were on the terrorism watch list. The flight was later rescheduled
without the two people who returned to their country of origin. So if they
landed in Mexico they might have been part of the "several hundred people a
day (who) enter the US illegally from Mexico."

So I think that the system is doing what it is supposed to do. Now whether
the people should have been on the list is another question, but they were
not on the list because of their names.