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On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, Dave Smith wrote:
I would agree that Ottawa may be a better choice than Quebec, considering that the OP wants to go to Toronto and Niagara. Quebec has an interesting old town, but I would need to be reminded of anything else there worth seeing........ I would have to disagree. This is Quebec's 400 th Anniversary. Just to walk through the old town, the gates of the fortified city, the narrow cobblestone streets and to experience the History and Culture. http://monquebec2008.sympatico.msn.c...08/?lang=en-ca Ottawa is a beautiful city with canals, government buildings and excellent museums. But 150 years ago, it was just a rough logging town on the Ottawa River. Quebec City was already 250 years old. |
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On 6 Feb, 17:50, (Ed Treijs) wrote:
In article , max11 wrote: Hi at all! I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane. It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could join in car with other people. May is a good month to visit northeastern North America, although it is possible to get cold weather or snow, especially at the beginning of the month. (In Ontario, there was quite a bit of snow on Victoria Day a year or two back, and that's around May 24!) However, when the weather is nice, it is very pleasant indeed. Ny (7 days), Boston (3) Montreal (3) Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) then flight to Chicago (4) flight to (Philadelphia 2) Washington (4) Does the time include travel? Because it will take most of a day to do some of the legs, such as Quebec City to Toronto. I think that you should reconsider the number of cities you want to visit, and make sure you have at least two non-travel days in each. Quebec City is a good tourist destination, but I'd suggest that it would make more sense to visit Ottawa instead. Ottawa is between Montreal and Toronto, so this reduces your travel time and expense (many buses Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, and trains too.) Ottawa has a fair amount of history, and many national museums as well as the historic Parliament buildings. There are many bus tours to Niagara, but I'd suggest you rent a car for a day or two while in Toronto. Niagara is the one leg that's a very easy drive. It seems that you will be in Toronto/Niagara area around May 20. The Niagara area has many blooming fruit trees at this time, and it is worth taking a longer driving tour. ....Ed I booked the flight to NY and return from Washington.I have 40 days plus 1 for the departing. I will not go to NO and maybe I'll skip some cities becasuse it's true that "less cities less thinghs to think" and I can enjoy more the trip. I think you're right, Ottawa is on the way but I read Quebec is much more better than Ottawa and much more different from both Montreal and Toronto. Are you agree? Now, after some days of rest from all this fares!, i 'll begin to find accommodation and the best way to move. So you say it's better to go to Niagara from Toronto instead of from NY. I noted there are some GREYHOUND PASS (7 DAY $ 283.00 - 15 day $ 415.00 - 30DAY 522.00) with which I can go to Canada too. I don't know if is good or maybe can be cheaper travel with special bus or train fares, such as ticket with a certain # of advance booking days? ANyone knows about these? |
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On 7 Feb, 04:11, Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article , max11 wrote: Hi at all! I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane. It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could join in car with other people. Ny (7 days), Boston (3) Montreal (3) Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) then flight to Chicago (4) flight to (Philadelphia 2) Washington (4) After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago. Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go directly from Boston? What do jou thik about? I would say you are planning a marathon, not a vacation, but that's just me. I hate rushing around and I much prefer to take time to see different areas at a leisurely pace. I suggest you pick four cities to visit, spend five days in each one, and allocate a full day to travel between them (including getting to/from wherever you plan to sleep at night) and leave the others for a different trip. One thing to keep in mind is that the United States and Canada are large countries and you appear to be forgetting about travel time between destinations on your proposed itinerary. For example, you'll spend all day getting from Boston to Montreal if you go by bus, so add a day right there. On a trip like that, I suggest six days in NYC. A half day traveling to Boston, then four days in Boston, a day traveling by bus to Toronto. Spend a few days there and two days in Niagara Falls (Canadian side). Then fly to Chicago and spend four or five days there, then conclude your trip in EITHER Washington or Philadelphia. In short, I think you would have a much leisurely trip and see more if you drop one of the cities from your itinerary, but whatever you do, be sure to factor in travel time between the destinations you want to visit. I booked and I have 40 days in all so I think I can go easily to Montreal and QUebec or Ottawa, isn't it?. Now the hard is to plan accommodation, flights and movements by bus/ train. First of all, I'll book accommodation in NY, then a flight from Toronto or Buffalo to Chicago and from here to Washington. The problem id to decided the dates because I don't want to be binded with them. I don't know the best way, maybe is better to consider one or two days more in Toronto to be sure with flight. Moreover I like to travel by bus/train during the night so I can save a day, my question is if I can organize my movements there (i read about chinese bus line for example) with special bus/train fares, such as ticket with a certain # of advance booking days, or pass. |
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On 7 Feb, 04:11, Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article , max11 wrote: Hi at all! I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane. It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could join in car with other people. Ny (7 days), Boston (3) Montreal (3) Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) then flight to Chicago (4) flight to (Philadelphia 2) Washington (4) After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago. Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go directly from Boston? What do jou thik about? I would say you are planning a marathon, not a vacation, but that's just me. I hate rushing around and I much prefer to take time to see different areas at a leisurely pace. I suggest you pick four cities to visit, spend five days in each one, and allocate a full day to travel between them (including getting to/from wherever you plan to sleep at night) and leave the others for a different trip. One thing to keep in mind is that the United States and Canada are large countries and you appear to be forgetting about travel time between destinations on your proposed itinerary. For example, you'll spend all day getting from Boston to Montreal if you go by bus, so add a day right there. On a trip like that, I suggest six days in NYC. A half day traveling to Boston, then four days in Boston, a day traveling by bus to Toronto. Spend a few days there and two days in Niagara Falls (Canadian side). Then fly to Chicago and spend four or five days there, then conclude your trip in EITHER Washington or Philadelphia. In short, I think you would have a much leisurely trip and see more if you drop one of the cities from your itinerary, but whatever you do, be sure to factor in travel time between the destinations you want to visit. I booked and I have 40 days in all so I think I can go easily to Montreal and QUebec or Ottawa, isn't it?. Now the hard is to plan accommodation, flights and movements by bus/ train. First of all, I'll book accommodation in NY, then a flight from Toronto or Buffalo to Chicago and from here to Washington. The problem id to decided the dates because I don't want to be binded with them. I don't know the best way, maybe is better to consider one or two days more in Toronto to be sure with flight. Moreover I like to travel by bus/train during the night so I can save a day, my question is if I can organize my movements there (i read about chinese bus line for example) with special bus/train fares, such as ticket with a certain # of advance booking days, or pass. |
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On Feb 5, 10:19*am, max11 wrote:
Hi at all! I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or 13th) . I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus or plane. It's expensive to rent a car because I am laone (eventually I could join in car with other people. Ny (7 days), Boston (3) Montreal (3) Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) then flight to Chicago (4) flight to (Philadelphia 2) Washington (4) After decided other most important things, I could decide to go to New Orleans (for example CH-NO $94 and NO-WA $96) from Chigago. Quebec: Is better to go from Montreal and then go to Toronto, or go directly from Boston? What do jou thik about? Let me show you how to tap into the $7 trillion dollar travel industry. YTB brings you the perfect opportunity to transform your life through combining the fun of travel with the speed of the internet, multiplied by the power of referral marketing to provide you with the ultimate home based business solution. With YTB you enjoy: * $6000 Commission Guarantee (YTB Guarantees your Success) * 60% Travel Commission * Publicly Traded YTBLA.PK * Company Stock Options * Referring Travel Agent Credentials * Your own personal website with an online booking engine * Affiliate Marketing Program * Bill of Rights guarantees on commissions * Company Familiarization (FAM) Trips at 60-80% off * Opportunities for Travel Perks * Low Startup Cost * Tax Benefits*** * Unlimited Support * Much more! This is truly the opportunity of a lifetime for anyone who wants to replace their salary or just generate some extra income while taking advantage of the home based business tax benefits! Visit my website at woodfieldtravel.paradisenetwork.com view presentation and/or testimonials, and join now to be a RTA/REP. I look forward to sharing this opportunity with you! No Experience Necessary! Huge Tax Benefits! |
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You can probably find out about the Chinese bus lines (I know they're NY
to Boston and NY to Philadelphia and Washington D.C.) by googling New York Chinese Bus |
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max11 wrote: On 6 Feb, 17:50, (Ed Treijs) wrote: I think you're right, Ottawa is on the way but I read Quebec is much more better than Ottawa and much more different from both Montreal and Toronto. Are you agree? Quebec City is a very old, historic city. I forgot about this year being 400 year celebration. But the celebration is in the news that it is not getting much interest or excitement. Also, a big attraction of Quebec City is that it is a very old walled town, which is not usual in North America. You are coming from Europe, so do you want to visit a place that is noted for being "old Europe"? When I visit Europe, I am not very interested in seeing "North American-style" places! Ottawa has as nice a setting as Quebec, in my opinion. There are many national museums in Ottawa: National Gallery and Museum of Civilization (just across the river in Hull) are two major ones that I can think of. The Tulip Festival will be happening in May: http://www.tulipfestival.ca/en/index.php Ottawa is definitely a larger city with more going on than Quebec. You would have to tell us more of your interests for us to be able to really say if you should visit Ottawa or Quebec. I can tell you that from Montreal to Ottawa is about the same time as Montreal to Quebec, but Quebec to Toronto is much longer than Ottawa to Toronto. Now, after some days of rest from all this fares!, i 'll begin to find accommodation and the best way to move. So you say it's better to go to Niagara from Toronto instead of from NY. I do not understand your question here. You wrote originally: Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) That shows that you will go to Niagara from Toronto, yes? My recommendation is that you rent a car instead of taking a bus tour, and drive. You should be able to find a one or two day rental pretty cheaply in Toronto. If you can't find one, or you decide that you don't want to drive, then you can take a bus tour or train to Niagara. This is one part of your trip that you don't need to plan much in advance. There are many rental places and many bus tours. The difficult part is to find the inexpensive rentals. For example, Budget was running a promotion where a car from Friday morning to Monday morning was under $100, with a few hundred km free. But you will not find this on their web site! (I am not sure if the promotion is still on, but it is an example of what you can find.) I noted there are some GREYHOUND PASS (7 DAY $ 283.00 - 15 day $ 415.00 - 30DAY 522.00) with which I can go to Canada too. I don't know if is good or maybe can be cheaper travel with special bus or train fares, such as ticket with a certain # of advance booking days? ANyone knows about these? I am not sure a pass will be economical. But it is also hard to say how to get the best fares. For example, Coach Canada runs buses directly between Montreal and Toronto. I have seen advertisments about "$1 fares". On their website coachcanada.com they say "as low as $10". By trying different days, I do find some $10 one-way fares. That is very inexpensive! But how would you find out from Europe? It is hard. Rental companies and bus companies have many bargains. You only find out about these bargains by seeing an advertisment on the back of a bus, or in the newspaper. Some bargains are not available on-line, so you have to telephone or visit their office. Of course, they hope you see their ads, think of them, but pay their "regular" rates in the end. .....Ed |
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Ed Treijs wrote:
In article , max11 wrote: On 6 Feb, 17:50, (Ed Treijs) wrote: I think you're right, Ottawa is on the way but I read Quebec is much more better than Ottawa and much more different from both Montreal and Toronto. Are you agree? Quebec City is a very old, historic city. I forgot about this year being 400 year celebration. But the celebration is in the news that it is not getting much interest or excitement. Also, a big attraction of Quebec City is that it is a very old walled town, which is not usual in North America. You are coming from Europe, so do you want to visit a place that is noted for being "old Europe"? When I visit Europe, I am not very interested in seeing "North American-style" places! Quebec is not a "walled town". "Old Quebec", which is a section of the city, is such a town but it is a small part of the city. If the festival is not getting much attention that is IMO a good thing--I made the mistake last year of arriving during the Molson festival and the place was packed--couldn't even find motorycycle parking within an easy walk of the Old City. Ottawa has as nice a setting as Quebec, in my opinion. There are many national museums in Ottawa: National Gallery and Museum of Civilization (just across the river in Hull) are two major ones that I can think of. The Tulip Festival will be happening in May: http://www.tulipfestival.ca/en/index.php One difference I can see is that there is no "just across the river" in Quebec--Levis is a different town. Ottawa is definitely a larger city with more going on than Quebec. You would have to tell us more of your interests for us to be able to really say if you should visit Ottawa or Quebec. I can tell you that from Montreal to Ottawa is about the same time as Montreal to Quebec, but Quebec to Toronto is much longer than Ottawa to Toronto. Now, after some days of rest from all this fares!, i 'll begin to find accommodation and the best way to move. So you say it's better to go to Niagara from Toronto instead of from NY. I do not understand your question here. You wrote originally: Quebec City (2) Toronto (3) Niagara (1) That shows that you will go to Niagara from Toronto, yes? My recommendation is that you rent a car instead of taking a bus tour, and drive. You should be able to find a one or two day rental pretty cheaply in Toronto. If you can't find one, or you decide that you don't want to drive, then you can take a bus tour or train to Niagara. This is one part of your trip that you don't need to plan much in advance. There are many rental places and many bus tours. The difficult part is to find the inexpensive rentals. For example, Budget was running a promotion where a car from Friday morning to Monday morning was under $100, with a few hundred km free. But you will not find this on their web site! (I am not sure if the promotion is still on, but it is an example of what you can find.) I noted there are some GREYHOUND PASS (7 DAY $ 283.00 - 15 day $ 415.00 - 30DAY 522.00) with which I can go to Canada too. I don't know if is good or maybe can be cheaper travel with special bus or train fares, such as ticket with a certain # of advance booking days? ANyone knows about these? I am not sure a pass will be economical. But it is also hard to say how to get the best fares. For example, Coach Canada runs buses directly between Montreal and Toronto. I have seen advertisments about "$1 fares". On their website coachcanada.com they say "as low as $10". By trying different days, I do find some $10 one-way fares. That is very inexpensive! But how would you find out from Europe? It is hard. Rental companies and bus companies have many bargains. You only find out about these bargains by seeing an advertisment on the back of a bus, or in the newspaper. Some bargains are not available on-line, so you have to telephone or visit their office. Of course, they hope you see their ads, think of them, but pay their "regular" rates in the end. ....Ed -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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J. Clarke:
To be perfectly honest, this is one time when it seems to me to make sense to just rent a car in Boston and drive to Quebec. The travel time's about the same as flying and the cost including gas for a one way rental is about the same as the air fare and there's some "picturesque" country in between. I haven't tried it, but it might not be possible to rent one-way from the US to Canada these days. -- Mark Brader | "...the government is simply a bunch of people we've Toronto | hired to protect ourselves from thieves and murderers | and rapists and other governments..." -- Bill Stewart |
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