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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"Earl Evleth" wrote in message ... The problem in the US is the variation of infant mortality rates with social class. That the US health care system kills the babies of poor people isn't news... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"Deeply Filled Mortician" wrote in message ... Make credence recognised that on Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:57:55 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan has scripted: A friend recently was in Australia and needed emergency dental treatment, which involved, amongst other thing, a wisdom tooth extraction. Cost him (or his insurance policy), around £1000. That's why going to eastern Europe to have dental work done is popular, not that it's an option if your in pain. In the UK emergency dental treatment is available free from hospitals. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:57:55 +0100, Mike
O'Sullivan has scripted: dechucka wrote: "Roger Dewhurst" wrote in message ... "PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message ps.com... hhttp://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2422646.ece 'Collapse of NHS system pushed dentist to take her own life' By Ian Herbert Published: 05 April 2007 Why should there be any NHS dental service? There is nothing like it in New Zealand or Australia. We used to have a great one in Aus till Howard stopped the funding now dental health in Australia has decreased A friend recently was in Australia and needed emergency dental treatment, which involved, amongst other thing, a wisdom tooth extraction. Cost him (or his insurance policy), around £1000. That's why going to eastern Europe to have dental work done is popular, not that it's an option if your in pain. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"William Black" wrote in message ... "Earl Evleth" wrote in message ... The problem in the US is the variation of infant mortality rates with social class. As it does in every country. However it was once was supposed that high infant mortality rates often meant that those that survived were that much fitter or healthier. I don't that rule applies today in the USA. That the US health care system kills the babies of poor people isn't news... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
Collapse of NHS system pushed dentist to take her own life'
PJ Life expectancy in the UK is over 80 years Life expectancy in the US is only 76 years. In reality the measure of the effectiveness of any health system is the infant mortality rate According to the CIA fact book the UK infant mortality rate is about 25% lower then the rate in the USA... William Black Really? The overall UK/ US infant mortality rate 25 % differential is statistically insignificant when compared with race/ethnic/geographic differentials within the US itself www.cdc.com Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Infant Mortality Rates --- 60 Largest U.S. Cities, 1995--1998 During the 20th century, U.S. infant mortality rates (IMRs) declined by 90% (1); however, many of the largest U.S. cities continue to have high IMRs compared with national rates. Studies of U.S. infant mortality by region document persisting geographic disparities (2,3) and differences across racial/ethnic groups. This report highlights the wide disparities in the most recent overall race- and ethnicity-specific IMRs for the largest U.S. cities and describes key differences among those cities. The findings demonstrate the need to decrease infant mortality among blacks in U.S. cities. If "poor medical care" creates much higher infant mortality rates in our cities why do poor US hispanics in the same communities for instance consistently have infant mortality rates comparable in most cases to whites and a fraction of the black infant mortality rates. Here are a few examples for you to chew on from www.cdc.gov Infant Mortality Rates White Black Hispanic Atlanta 6.7 14.6 6.1 Denver 6.8 15.5 7.3 Chicago 7.0 17.6 7.1 |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message oups.com... The overall UK/ US infant mortality rate 25 % differential is statistically insignificant when compared with race/ethnic/geographic differentials within the US itself That the US healthcare system kills the babies of certain groups within the USA isn't news... If "poor medical care" creates much higher infant mortality rates in our cities why do poor US hispanics in the same communities for instance consistently have infant mortality rates comparable in most cases to whites and a fraction of the black infant mortality rates. Because the US system kills the babies of the poor and the US economic system seems, to an external viewer, to be racist. Your health system doesn't work, costs you a fortune, and the babies of the poor die because of this. In the UK very few babies die because of their parents poverty and care is very good, to the extent that the number of private maternity units in the UK is infinitesimally small. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"William Black" wrote in message ... "PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message oups.com... The overall UK/ US infant mortality rate 25 % differential is statistically insignificant when compared with race/ethnic/geographic differentials within the US itself That the US healthcare system kills the babies of certain groups within the USA isn't news... If "poor medical care" creates much higher infant mortality rates in our cities why do poor US hispanics in the same communities for instance consistently have infant mortality rates comparable in most cases to whites and a fraction of the black infant mortality rates. Because the US system kills the babies of the poor and the US economic system seems, to an external viewer, to be racist. Your health system doesn't work, costs you a fortune, and the babies of the poor die because of this. In the UK very few babies die because of their parents poverty and care is very good, to the extent that the number of private maternity units in the UK is infinitesimally small. -- William Black We also have just as great a 'race/ethnic' differential as the USA. Over 300 different languages spoken in London compared with a miserable 200 or so in New York. |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
Your health system doesn't work, costs you a fortune, and the babies
of the poor die because of this. William Black The emprical data does not support your cynicism. The figures show poor urban US Hispanic babies have a survival rate over twice that of US poor urban blacks in the same communities. How do you explain that difference????? Are you arguing that different lifestyles and different individual responsibilities do not impact infant mortality rates at all???? |
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UK: Collapse of NHS leads to suicide
"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message ups.com... Your health system doesn't work, costs you a fortune, and the babies of the poor die because of this. William Black The emprical data does not support your cynicism. The figures show poor urban US Hispanic babies have a survival rate over twice that of US poor urban blacks in the same communities. How do you explain that difference????? Racism. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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