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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility
On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote:
On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote: On Dec 1, 4:51*am, Shawn Hirn wrote: In article , wrote: On Dec 1, 1:26*am, "Bob Myers" wrote: wrote in message ... Remind your US presidential electors about their constitutional duty to investigate Obama's eligibility before it's too late and the economic crisis becomes the least of your problems. And then, since John McCain was born in the Canal Zone - which was never U.S. territory - they'd have to investigate HIS eligibility as well. *So, the only logical deduction we can make is that you're a Nader supporter, right? Bob M. Listen, clown! This is not about McCain. Secondly, McCain never denied his birth in Panama. Obama insists on being born in Hawaii while being fully aware that he was not born in Hawaii. This is a fraudulent/ criminal claim. McCain was never hiding his birth place and released all his birth records. Obama produced a birth certificate showing his citizenship. End of story.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Question #1 - *Back in the 60s Hawaii allowed parents to register their children born outside USA. Now, Hawaii provides computer printouts called "Certification of Live Birth" and Obama has the same one and calls it "birth certificate". How do you know if *Obama was born in Hawaii? * *I don't. *I also know it doesn't matter. *His mother was 'Merikin so he is. *Where he was born was of little concern because he was here when he turned 18 and quickly established his citizenship. Question #2 - If Obama was born in Hawaii, how come he never mentioned the name of his birth place like a hospital name? Does it mean he cannot pronounce Hawaiian names? * * Name the first US President born in a hospital. *It may surprise you. My wife doesn't know where she was born. *It was somewhere in Brooklyn but it was not uncommon to be born in midwife facilities not too far back. Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never said a word. * "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate." Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release says? All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate". It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia. Under the Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today "Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document with different name. Considering all the public pressure on Hawaii officials to confirm Obama's birth in Hawaii, they would start any response with confirmation that Obama was born in Hawaii. Instead, they give you carefully worded garbage so that your low IQ brain can swallow it and Obama propaganda machine can beat into your worthless brain until you repeat it like a low IQ moron. Obama had a background check but not for a natural-born status. How do you know anybody investigated his birth? * * Name the last president to have their birth "investigaged". Oh, and the newspaper of the day: "A birth announcement for Barack Obama Jr was also published in the Honolulu Advertiseron 13 August 1961, reporting a 4 August 1961 birth date for the child of Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama" Question #4 - Hawaii officials have said that Obama's original documents are on file without saying Obama was born in Hawaii or any details. * Not exactly. *They said they have seen the certificate. *That's pretty much the end of the story. The mainstream media have never reported to you their actual statements. Instead the media has lied to you by saying that Hawaii officials have verifed his birth. To make it easier on you pick your own question here.-- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility
On Dec 3, 5:39*am, wrote:
On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote: On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote: [snip] Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never said a word. * "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate." Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release says? All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate". IN Hawaii It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia. Yes, it does. It clearly lists his place of birth as Hawaii. Under the Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today "Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document with different name. No, they don't. There is a long form and a short form but one can only get copies of the short form. When you get a passport, it lists your place of birth, regardless of your nationality status or when it was acquired. I know people whose places of birth are from various european countries. It clearly lists them as such, yet they are natural born Americans. [snip] |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility
What is very funny - or at least it would be, were it not so pathetic -
about the recent attempt to bring up the Obama birth certificate myth once again is simply that at this point, there *can't* be anything to it. The GOP just got done spending literally HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars trying to defeat Obama - and you don't think that if there was even the slightest question of this eligibility for the Presidency, at least a little of that would have been spent to show it and shout it from every rooftop? He's the President-elect. On Jan. 20th, he will be sworn in as the 44th President. Deal with it. Bob M. |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility
On Dec 3, 1:13*pm, Kev wrote:
On Dec 3, 5:39*am, wrote: On Dec 1, 2:02*pm, Kev wrote: On Dec 1, 6:26*am, wrote: [snip] Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never said a word. * "Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate." Do you have a sufficient IQ to actually grasp what this news release says? All it says is that Hawaii has "Obama’s original birth certificate". * *IN Hawaii It does not say anything whether this "Obama’s original birth certificate" is from Hawaii or Kenya or from Indonesia. * Yes, it does. *It clearly lists his place of birth as Hawaii. Under the Hawaii laws, a parent could use an original birth certificate from another country to register a child in Hawaii and get today "Certification of Live Birth". People actually born in Hawaii do not get such "Certification of Live Birth", they get another document with different name. * No, they don't. *There is a long form and a short form but one can only get copies of the short form. *When you get a passport, it lists your place of birth, regardless of your nationality status or when it was acquired. *I know people whose places of birth are from various european countries. *It clearly lists them as such, yet they are natural born Americans. [snip]- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Presidant JFK and Elvis do not work at that Yukon Burger King, using fake Canadian numbers Flyin saucers are microwave suitable for warming-up aliens' pizza slabs More people were not affected by 3 Mile Island than ...are linked to Kevin Ham If deity wouldn't exist, then there would be crime, disease, starvation, suffering, inhumanity...thank go(o)dness for that making-up inane crape like such provides the super-ego with amoral consciousness |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility
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DevilsPGD wrote: In message was claimed to have wrote: Question #3 - If a federal agency like FBI or Secret Service ever investigated Obama's original birth records then Obama would be the first one to tell us. But he never said a word. Hawaii officials never said a word. Obama had a background check but not for a natural-born status. How do you know anybody investigated his birth? I'd put down a lot of money that the McCain campaign researched, this would have made a lovely attack ad. Yeah but then The Conspiracy Theorists would state that McCain's eligibility was also suspect since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone where Dad was stationed at the time. |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility
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"Rog'" wrote: I'd bet that many of these right-wing nut-jobs would favor a constitutional amendment so Arnold, the Governator, could run. Wherever Obama was born, at least he can speak descipherable English. IMO, the ability to use a voice- activated telephone menu system should be a requirement. Not any more. That lad has even managed to give RINOs a bad name... |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama's eligibility
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:32:30 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote: Yeah but then The Conspiracy Theorists would state that McCain's eligibility was also suspect since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone where Dad was stationed at the time. They might say that but it wouldn't be an issue since both of his parents were adult American citizens when he was born. |
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Demand that US presidential electors investigate Obama'seligibility
On Dec 5, 11:39*pm, Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article , wrote: On Dec 1, 4:51*am, Shawn Hirn wrote: In article , wrote: On Dec 1, 1:26*am, "Bob Myers" wrote: wrote in message ... Remind your US presidential electors about their constitutional duty to investigate Obama's eligibility before it's too late and the economic crisis becomes the least of your problems. And then, since John McCain was born in the Canal Zone - which was never U.S. territory - they'd have to investigate HIS eligibility as well. *So, the only logical deduction we can make is that you're a Nader supporter, right? Bob M. Listen, clown! This is not about McCain. Secondly, McCain never denied his birth in Panama. Obama insists on being born in Hawaii while being fully aware that he was not born in Hawaii. This is a fraudulent/ criminal claim. McCain was never hiding his birth place and released all his birth records. Obama produced a birth certificate showing his citizenship. End of story.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Question #1 - *Back in the 60s Hawaii allowed parents to register their children born outside USA. Now, Hawaii provides computer printouts called "Certification of Live Birth" and Obama has the same one and calls it "birth certificate". How do you know if *Obama was born in Hawaii? The State of Hawaii has certified Obama's birth certificate (including the copy on his web site). There are also Hawaiian newspapers from August of 1961, that announced Obama's birth. This is a red herring. I saw on CNN tonight that Justice Thomas decided to ask all nine Supreme Court justices to decide if they should hear this case. They're scheduled to decide on Monday and the odds of them killing the case are a virtual certainty. Why? The legal definition of a "naturally born citizen" is nebulous at best. The Supreme Court is also unlikely to undo the election, especially with such a landslide vote in Obama's favor.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The definition of "natural born"......hmmmmm...as Justice O.W. Holmes famously acknowledges, the Supreme Court decides/defines what legalistic reality is when he says: "The Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is," George Romney Senior, a good guy circa 1960s, was apparently born in Mexico and John McCain in a Panama Canal military hospital, and one can wager a few Democrats would be challenging "natural born" if situation were reversed |
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