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  #21  
Old January 30th, 2008, 07:03 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
tim \(not at home\)
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Default Stratford not safe?


"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 1:09 am, "William Black"
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Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, Stratford after dark
isn't
that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways where
you
don't even recognise the script over the door, never mind read the
language.


Which Stratford?


The one in East London

tim



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Old January 30th, 2008, 07:34 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default Stratford not safe?

Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, Stratford after dark
isn't that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways
where you don't even recognise the script over the door, never mind
read the language.

Which Stratford? I lived in Stratford on Avon for many years -- it was
safer after dark than most towns in the day.


The OP presumably means Stratford in East London (the East London in
London, not the one in South Africa).

Not one of my favourite places but not exactly Here Be Dragons either.

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  #23  
Old January 31st, 2008, 08:08 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
William Black
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Default Stratford not safe?


"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message
...

"Iceman" wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 1:09 am, "William Black"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, Stratford after dark
isn't
that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways where
you
don't even recognise the script over the door, never mind read the
language.


Which Stratford? I lived in Stratford on Avon for many years -- it was
safer after dark than most towns in the day.


The clue is in the words 'multicultural London'.

If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the New borough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

  #24  
Old January 31st, 2008, 08:14 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Keith Anderson
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Default Stratford not safe?

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:38:06 +0530, "William Black"
wrote:


If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.


So that'd be a "no", then? :-)


Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen
  #25  
Old January 31st, 2008, 09:16 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
george
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Default Stratford not safe?

On Jan 31, 9:08*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message

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"Iceman" wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 1:09 am, "William Black"
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Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, *Stratford after dark
isn't
that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways where
you
don't even recognise the script over the door, *never mind read the
language.


Which Stratford? *I lived in Stratford on Avon for many years -- it was
safer after dark than most towns in the day.


The clue is in the words 'multicultural London'.

If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, *but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, *the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the New borough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When I visited Stratford on Avon over twnety years ago I was really
impressed, I never knew so many bikers were into Shakespeare!!!! Long
lines of large motorcycle groups going into and leaving town.

George
  #26  
Old January 31st, 2008, 09:48 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Keith Anderson
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Default Stratford not safe?

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:16:06 -0800 (PST), george
wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:08*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message

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"Iceman" wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 1:09 am, "William Black"
wrote:
wrote in message


...


Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, *Stratford after dark
isn't
that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways where
you
don't even recognise the script over the door, *never mind read the
language.


Which Stratford? *I lived in Stratford on Avon for many years -- it was
safer after dark than most towns in the day.


The clue is in the words 'multicultural London'.

If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, *but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, *the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the New borough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When I visited Stratford on Avon over twnety years ago I was really
impressed, I never knew so many bikers were into Shakespeare!!!!


When I bestride him, I soar, I am a hawk: he trots the air; the earth
sings when he touches it; the basest horn of his Kawasaki is more
musical than the pipe of Hermes. (Henry V) with apologies to the
Bard.

Long
lines of large motorcycle groups going into and leaving town.

George



Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen
  #27  
Old January 31st, 2008, 09:56 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne, _the_ chancellor[_2_]
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Default Stratford not safe?

William Black wrote:

"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message
...

"Iceman" wrote in message
...
On Jan 29, 1:09 am, "William Black"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

Take a ride out to Stratford (in the day time, Stratford after dark
isn't
that safe) and see the real multicultural London with take-aways where
you
don't even recognise the script over the door, never mind read the
language.

Which Stratford? I lived in Stratford on Avon for many years -- it was
safer after dark than most towns in the day.


The clue is in the words 'multicultural London'.

If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.


Hm. I wouldn't call it ghastly. Spending an evening in Stratford is a
good idea, as most visitors are day trippers. I found it particularly
lovely on a Sunday morning, when for a few hours I felt as though I had
the place entirely to myself. We had some good meals in pubs and didn't
find it over-expensive.

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onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
  #28  
Old January 31st, 2008, 03:25 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Iceman
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Default Stratford not safe?

On Jan 31, 3:08 am, "William Black"
wrote:
If I'd meant the well known tourist trap 'Stratford on Avon I'd have said
so, but I'm about as likely to recommend a visit there as recommend you
have a leg removed so you can see what it's like...

The place is ghastly, the theatre is always full of A level students
reciting along with the play and the town invariably full of Americans and
Japanese busy being impressed by Victorian reproductions of Elizabethan
structures and being ripped off by a set of shopkeepers and catering outlets
to an extent that is actually bordering on the repulsive.



A British Volendam?
  #29  
Old January 31st, 2008, 04:15 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default Stratford not safe?

Following up to george wrote:

When I visited Stratford on Avon over twnety years ago I was really
impressed,


i must agree, the play was impressive and the place pleasant enough,
dont recollect any A level students or rip offs.
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Mike
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  #30  
Old February 1st, 2008, 03:31 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
bob fusillo
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Default Stratford not safe?


"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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William Black wrote:

"Bob Fusillo" wrote in message
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Hm. I wouldn't call it ghastly. Spending an evening in Stratford is a
good idea, as most visitors are day trippers. I found it particularly
lovely on a Sunday morning, when for a few hours I felt as though I had
the place entirely to myself. We had some good meals in pubs and didn't
find it over-expensive.


But later in the day it is hellish -- on a nice Sunday, all of Birmingham
goes to the country for the day. 82% think Stratford ( O-A) is the country.
The petrol fumes make the town un-walkable.
Sorry, by the way, about not thinking of that "other" Stratford. 55 years
in Britain and I never got there -- from above reports, I shan't go now.
rjf


 




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