Obama enters his race simply as African-American on census form

On Apr 4, 9:13*pm, (Poetic Justice) wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote;

...And what would YOU suggest he
choose? (Cretin!)

9. What is Person 1's Race? Mark [x] one or more boxes.

[ ] White

[ ] Black, African Am., or Negro


In addition there is a line with boxes where the respondent can fill
in other races Just for the fun of it I filled in Australian Aborigine
for my wife and myself. We visited Australia 8 times after all way
back betweem 1988 and 1998.

If Obama wanted to be accurate he could have indicated "mulatto" or
even "high yellow" which is considered very prestigious in some negro
social circles.

By indicating only "African American" could Obama not again be
admiiting he was accurately born from an American mother and a Kenyan
father in Kenya which is in Africa? A Freudian slip perhaps?

From: Mxsmanic
Organization: Just Mxsmanic
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:10:03 +0200
Subject: Obama enters his race simply as African-American on census form

Earl Evleth writes:

What are those?

Irish people aren't eligible for Affirmative Action handouts, and can't cry
racism if someone fails to salivate when they ring a bell, and can't insist on
"compensation" for their great-great-grandparents having been slaves, and
can't have 17 children by 17 different partners and escape child support, and
so on.

What White person would want to be suddenly transformed
into a Black person?

None, but when special privileges are available for legally-black people,
mentioning a black ancestor might be useful. You don't have to have dark skin
to be legally black, and if you are legally white having dark skin doesn't
matter.

Those of Irish descent, who have at least one parent or even one grandparent
born in Ireland can claim Irish citizenship even if they have never lived in
Ireland. With Irish citizenship they can work in the European Union. I
have known Americans in this situation who have proved their Irish descent
and gotten jobs here in France. I call that a special privilege.

Donna Evleth

Mxsmanic wrote:
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself writes:

"He may be the world's foremost mixed-race leader, but when it came to
the official government head count, President Obama gave only one
answer to the question about his ethnic background: African-
American....

There are a lot more advantages to calling oneself black than there are to
calling oneself Irish.

Personal experience?

On 5/04/10 12:18, in article ,
"Mxsmanic" wrote:

No, it just tilts the playing field in the opposite direction. Two wrongs
don't make a right.

It tilts nothing.

Things like positive discrimination brought Obama into higher education
and eventually tp Harvard Law school.

There was a time in higher education that Ivy League schools practiced
negative discrimination.`

Likewise, equal opportunity practices also brought more women into
University posts, where before it was man's world. It still largely
is.

Archaic practices still exist. We have one woman friend, very high
up in her field who was paid less for the same academic level then
men in her department, at top school. They eventually lost her
to an even better school. But some practices are incrusted.

The UC system had no such practices. Salary levels depended
only on your level, all level 2 full professors are paid
the same.

EXCEPT if the University Regents votee an off scale salary in
order to keep a particular person at the University. Nobel
Prize winners are always off scale as are those standing
in line for that honor.

Equal opportunity means really equal, the doors are wide open
for merit to establish itself.

People like you don't have practical experience in this area.

You Maxi are a social isolationist, no important life experience
and you post constantly off the top of your head. And
that reputation is stuck to you.

On Apr 5, 6:41 am, Donna Evleth wrote:
From: Mxsmanic

What White person would want to be suddenly transformed
into a Black person?

None, but when special privileges are available for legally-black people,
mentioning a black ancestor might be useful. You don't have to have dark skin
to be legally black, and if you are legally white having dark skin doesn't
matter.

Those of Irish descent, who have at least one parent or even one grandparent
born in Ireland can claim Irish citizenship even if they have never lived in
Ireland. With Irish citizenship they can work in the European Union. I
have known Americans in this situation who have proved their Irish descent
and gotten jobs here in France. I call that a special privilege.

Donna Evleth

Many of us, American born, eligible for dual citizenship are and have
been aware that that option is available but have no desire to split
our American allegiance.















..

On Apr 5, 3:39*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
On Apr 4, 9:13*pm, (Poetic Justice) wrote:

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote;

...And what would YOU suggest he
choose? (Cretin!)

9. What is Person 1's Race? Mark [x] one or more boxes.

[ ] White

[ ] Black, African Am., or Negro

In addition there is a line with boxes where the respondent can fill
in other races Just for the fun of it I filled in Australian Aborigine
for my wife and myself. We visited Australia 8 times after all way
back betweem 1988 and 1998.

If Obama wanted to be accurate he could have indicated "mulatto" or
even *"high yellow" which is considered very prestigious in some negro
social circles.

By indicating only "African American" could Obama not again be
admiiting he was accurately born from an American mother and a Kenyan
father in Kenya which is in Africa? A Freudian slip perhaps?

What's freudian about it? There is no secret that that was where he
was born. That he was born to an American Citizen makes him a
"natural born citizen" - end of story.

Harry K

On Apr 5, 10:22*am, harry k wrote:
On Apr 5, 3:39*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:



On Apr 4, 9:13*pm, (Poetic Justice) wrote:

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote;

...And what would YOU suggest he
choose? (Cretin!)

9. What is Person 1's Race? Mark [x] one or more boxes.

[ ] White

[ ] Black, African Am., or Negro

In addition there is a line with boxes where the respondent can fill
in other races Just for the fun of it I filled in Australian Aborigine
for my wife and myself. We visited Australia 8 times after all way
back betweem 1988 and 1998.

If Obama wanted to be accurate he could have indicated "mulatto" or
even *"high yellow" which is considered very prestigious in some negro
social circles.

By indicating only "African American" could Obama not again be
admiiting he was accurately born from an American mother and a Kenyan
father in Kenya which is in Africa? A Freudian slip perhaps?

What's freudian about it? *There is no secret that that was where he
was born. *That he was born to an American Citizen makes him a
"natural born citizen" - end of story.

Harry K

Read the law at the time idiot. His mother was too young at the time
to pass citizenship even in accordance with that law.

Mike writes:

Earl hasn't figured out yet that minorities don't want equality, they
just want special treatment.

Just about everyone wants special treatment. Minority PACs and SIGs are just
more successful at obtaining it, by playing upon the guilt and ignorance of
the majority.

Earl Evleth writes:

Things like positive discrimination brought Obama into higher education
and eventually tp Harvard Law school.

So you're saying that he wasn't qualified to attend Harvard without
favoritism?

There was a time in higher education that Ivy League schools practiced
negative discrimination.`

They still do. Only the requisite personal characteristics have changed. In
the old days, dark skin lost. Now light skin loses. The discrimination has not
disappeared, it has just shifted. This is not an improvement.

Likewise, equal opportunity practices also brought more women into
University posts, where before it was man's world. It still largely
is.

Equal opportunity isn't the same as affirmative action.

EXCEPT if the University Regents votee an off scale salary in
order to keep a particular person at the University. Nobel
Prize winners are always off scale as are those standing
in line for that honor.

You can get a Nobel Prize just for having dark skin, too, as Obama proved.

Donna Evleth writes:

Those of Irish descent, who have at least one parent or even one grandparent
born in Ireland can claim Irish citizenship even if they have never lived in
Ireland.

Why would they want part of bankruptcy? Their ancestors came to the U.S.
because they liked it better than Ireland, so why go back?

My ancestors emigrated to the U.S. in the 19th century. I've never visited the
countries from which they came. I figure that if those countries were really
so great, my ancestors would not have emigrated.

With Irish citizenship they can work in the European Union.

They may have to, since jobs in Ireland might be hard to find.

I have known Americans in this situation who have proved their Irish descent
and gotten jobs here in France. I call that a special privilege.

It is, but most Americans don't want to move to another country, especially
just to get a job in France.