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Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:53 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
nightjar
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Default Why We Don't Want "Free" Medical Care


"John Kulp" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:01:09 +0100, Dusty Furtile Morrocan
wrote:

On the particular moment of Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:43 GMT in relation
to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy,
(John Kulp) put forth:

In the NY Times:


snips long, irrelevant article

Joy, another article pointing out some isolated cases.

How about explaining why the world isn't rushing headlong into an
American-style health system?


Yeah irrelevant alright. And hardly isolated. Everytime I have been
in the UK there's something on the BBC about cases like this. If they
were so isolated, that would hardly be the case would it?


That is like suggesting that aircraft accidents must be common because they
are always reported. Anything that becomes too common, like traffic
accidents (excluding the really spectacular ones) simply ceases to be
newsworthy. It is the unusual that gets reported.

The NHS is extremely good at dealing with acute cases, something I have more
experience with than I would like. Where it fails is that Government does
not give it enough resources to be good at dealing with chronic cases too.

Colin Bignell


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Old February 22nd, 2008, 01:17 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Alan S[_1_]
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:43 GMT,
(John Kulp) wrote:

In the NY Times:


Good place for it. Leave it there next time.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 03:49 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:53:46 -0000, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname
here.me.uk wrote:


"John Kulp" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:01:09 +0100, Dusty Furtile Morrocan
wrote:

On the particular moment of Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:43 GMT in relation
to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy,
(John Kulp) put forth:

In the NY Times:

snips long, irrelevant article

Joy, another article pointing out some isolated cases.

How about explaining why the world isn't rushing headlong into an
American-style health system?


Yeah irrelevant alright. And hardly isolated. Everytime I have been
in the UK there's something on the BBC about cases like this. If they
were so isolated, that would hardly be the case would it?


That is like suggesting that aircraft accidents must be common because they
are always reported. Anything that becomes too common, like traffic
accidents (excluding the really spectacular ones) simply ceases to be
newsworthy. It is the unusual that gets reported.


I wasn't talking about aircraft accidents, I was posting an article in
the NY Times on UK healthcare. I didn't write it, edit it or do
anything else. So are you claiming that the Times, the leading
leftist newspaper, is making up a non-existent problem that I
personally have heard criticism about on the BBC everytime I have been
in the UK? Or was I just beating the odds?


The NHS is extremely good at dealing with acute cases, something I have more
experience with than I would like. Where it fails is that Government does
not give it enough resources to be good at dealing with chronic cases too.


At the cost of people's lives? Allowing bureaucrats to arbitrarily
decide someone doesn't get care because it's "unfair" to others?
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 03:51 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
John Kulp
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:17:43 +1100, Alan S wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:43 GMT,
(John Kulp) wrote:

In the NY Times:


Good place for it. Leave it there next time.


Leave what? An article on UK healthcare written by one of the leading
US newspapers? Why?
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 05:15 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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In article , John Kulp
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:53:46 -0000, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname
here.me.uk wrote:


"John Kulp" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:01:09 +0100, Dusty Furtile Morrocan
wrote:

On the particular moment of Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:43 GMT in relation
to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy,
(John Kulp) put forth:

In the NY Times:

snips long, irrelevant article

Joy, another article pointing out some isolated cases.

How about explaining why the world isn't rushing headlong into an
American-style health system?

Yeah irrelevant alright. And hardly isolated. Everytime I have been
in the UK there's something on the BBC about cases like this. If they
were so isolated, that would hardly be the case would it?


That is like suggesting that aircraft accidents must be common because they
are always reported. Anything that becomes too common, like traffic
accidents (excluding the really spectacular ones) simply ceases to be
newsworthy. It is the unusual that gets reported.


I wasn't talking about aircraft accidents, I was posting an article in
the NY Times on UK healthcare. I didn't write it, edit it or do
anything else. So are you claiming that the Times, the leading
leftist newspaper, is making up a non-existent problem that I
personally have heard criticism about on the BBC everytime I have been
in the UK? Or was I just beating the odds?


On most Sundays at 3pm (eastern) on CSPAN you can watch "Prime
Minister's Questions"... the only 'questions' that possibly eclipse
health care is crime.

jay
Thu Feb 21, 2008




The NHS is extremely good at dealing with acute cases, something I have more
experience with than I would like. Where it fails is that Government does
not give it enough resources to be good at dealing with chronic cases too.


At the cost of people's lives? Allowing bureaucrats to arbitrarily
decide someone doesn't get care because it's "unfair" to others?

 




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