Paying to get on first

Jim Ley wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:54:03 +0100, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:17:58 GMT, (Jim Ley) wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:48:00 +0000,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

Why do you stay in London hotels? I thought you lived there!

I've been homeless for a few months now, begging sofas off people and
the occasional (well more than occasional actually) nights in London
hotels or on peoples sofa.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Hope things sort themselves out soon.

Cheers, but it's a through choice homelessness, so it's not a bad
thing, Oe of the offers I've had is for Leiden...

There may be an upper shelf in a Parisian cupboard going. Will be a
touch on the warm side though!

--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

tim (in Sweden) wrote:
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

Me neither.

I could never understand why everyone was always in such a hurry to get
on the plane when, no matter when you get on, you reach your
destination at the same time. It's not that airport lounges are the
nicest places in the world, but I'd much rather be there than standing
in line, waiting to get crammed into the plane.

I know that there is stiff competition for space to stow your carryons
overhead, but unless you've got a bulkhead seat why not just put it on
the floor?

(Silly question from me: shouldn't bulkhead seats be guaranteed some
kind of space for carry-ons?)

And everybody standing (well, crouching if you're not in an aisle) up
as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off... never got that either. Gees,
it's not like the airplane's on fire or anything.

Tim.

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tim (in Sweden) wrote:
Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

Me neither.

I could never understand why everyone was always in such a hurry to get
on the plane when, no matter when you get on, you reach your
destination at the same time. It's not that airport lounges are the
nicest places in the world, but I'd much rather be there than standing
in line, waiting to get crammed into the plane.

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the bus
that is going to take them to the plane too .
This makes a mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me. With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle stampede.

It´s even funnier at disembarking, they way the sheep stand up and bend
their neck in a strange contortion as they rush to get their belongings from
the lockers. I get off last, last on the bus, first at passport control and
baggage claim.

I know that there is stiff competition for space to stow your carryons
overhead, but unless you've got a bulkhead seat why not just put it on
the floor?

(Silly question from me: shouldn't bulkhead seats be guaranteed some
kind of space for carry-ons?)

And everybody standing (well, crouching if you're not in an aisle) up
as soon as the seatbelt sign goes off... never got that either. Gees,
it's not like the airplane's on fire or anything.

Tim.

"JP" writes:

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the
bus that is going to take them to the plane too . This makes a
mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me.

They can, of course. The reason why they don't is it speeds up
boarding, which in turn cuts the turn-around time, which is an
important part of why they're so cheap.

With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle
stampede.

Me and Stelios believe it just fine, although if you can only convince
one (1) of us you would be better off trying him.

Des

"Des Small" wrote in message
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"JP" writes:

Another thing I don´t understand are the sheep rushing to board the
bus that is going to take them to the plane too . This makes a
mockery of the easy jet system. Why they can´t allocate seat is
beyond me.

They can, of course. The reason why they don't is it speeds up
boarding,

I can't believe that it saves more than a minute or two.
They generally start boarding 15 minutes before schedual
and everyone (at the gate) is boarded with 5 minutes to
go.

ISTM that it costs real money to implement a seat allocation
system at check-in. This also takes longer (uses more staff)
whilst everyone selects their favorite seat.

which in turn cuts the turn-around time, which is an
important part of why they're so cheap.

With self check in this would be so simple to implement. I can´t
believe that a seat allocaion system is any slower than a cattle
stampede.

Me and Stelios believe it just fine, although if you can only convince
one (1) of us you would be better off trying him.

Des

JP wrote:
e.

It´s even funnier at disembarking, they way the sheep stand up and bend
their neck in a strange contortion as they rush to get their belongings from
the lockers. I get off last, last on the bus, first at passport control and
baggage claim.


Are you last off the plane when there is passport control and no bus?

In article , Derek McBryde
wrote:

Probably not. I had a peculiar experience with Easyjet a couple of
months ago. I checked in just after the flight was opened. When I
came to board they were calling by boarding pass number and I found I
was near the back of the queue. I find it very hard to believe that
all of the other people checked in before me ( not impossible but
unlikely) so I am still wondering what the score was there.

I normally get my seat assignment long in advance; is that related to
"boarding pass number"?

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar), biblioholic medievalist

There is no such thing as too many books.

Too few bookshelves can, however, be a problem.

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Following up to erilar :

I normally get my seat assignment long in advance; is that related to
"boarding pass number"?


Easyjet and Ryanair don't assign seats.
Everyone gets a boarding-pass number when they check-in.
Come boarding time, they say "everyone with pass numbers 1-100 pleas board
now" and there's a huge stampede of people trying to get in first for a
window-seat or to reserve an extra seat next to them. Then the second half
of the plane can board and fill in the seats that are left.
Sometimes families with small children get 30 seconds head start on the
first group.
--
Tim C.

In article , Tim C.
wrote:

Following up to erilar :

I normally get my seat assignment long in advance; is that related to
"boarding pass number"?


Easyjet and Ryanair don't assign seats.
Everyone gets a boarding-pass number when they check-in.
Come boarding time, they say "everyone with pass numbers 1-100 pleas board
now" and there's a huge stampede of people trying to get in first for a
window-seat or to reserve an extra seat next to them. Then the second half
of the plane can board and fill in the seats that are left.
Sometimes families with small children get 30 seconds head start on the
first group.
--


Obviously two airlines for me to avoid!

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar), biblioholic medievalist

There is no such thing as too many books.

Too few bookshelves can, however, be a problem.

http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

"tim (in Sweden)" wrote:

Stelios was being interviewed on (BBC) R5 last night and he revealed
that his latest scam, um fare reducing idea, is to charge extra to be in
group A and get on first.

He suggested 5 pounds would put you in the same group as the:
families with children.

Can't say I'd be buying this myself, any takers?

The plane doesn't take off any earlier. No matter when you get on you aren't
going to start to taxi for takeoff until everyone else is on. The sooner you
get on and get seated the longer you have to wait.