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Am you legally justified in killing a passenger who refuses to turn off their cell phone?



 
 
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Old January 21st, 2012, 07:17 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 20, 11:25*pm, "Scout"
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Yep, and that has pretty much been accomplished in the cargo hold. Because,
they bond all the metal together in an aircraft to avoid picking up static
charges. most is automatic in construction but where you have something like
a gasketed door or shock mount....it comes with it's own bonding wire to
insure that it's electrically grounded (ie bonded) to the rest of the
aircraft.

So, like I said, good luck getting a cell signal into the cargo hold once
all the access doors are secured.


Wrong. Bonding is very different from shielding. A slot antenna is a
example of something bonded, but open to rf waves.


Dan

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Old January 21st, 2012, 10:37 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 20, 11:25 pm, "Scout"
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Yep, and that has pretty much been accomplished in the cargo hold.
Because,
they bond all the metal together in an aircraft to avoid picking up
static
charges. most is automatic in construction but where you have something
like
a gasketed door or shock mount....it comes with it's own bonding wire to
insure that it's electrically grounded (ie bonded) to the rest of the
aircraft.

So, like I said, good luck getting a cell signal into the cargo hold once
all the access doors are secured.


Wrong. Bonding is very different from shielding. A slot antenna is a
example of something bonded, but open to rf waves.


True, but when you put solid metal all around something that is bonded
together, you get *TaDa* a faraday cage which is pretty much the defacto
standard of RF shielding.



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Old January 22nd, 2012, 02:56 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 21, 4:37*pm, "Scout"
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True, but when you put solid metal all around something that is bonded
together, you get *TaDa* a faraday cage which is pretty much the defacto
standard of RF shielding.


What ever.

Dan

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Old January 22nd, 2012, 04:46 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 21, 1:40*pm, RD Sandman
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Shall not be infringed wrote :









On Jan 20, 12:34*pm, RD Sandman
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Shall not be infringed wrote
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On Jan 18, 1:41*am, "Charles Dickey" wrote:
I did some traveling lately and noted that some passengers who
were told to turn off their phones, did so, and as soon as the
stewardess passed on, they turned them right back on. *This is a
safety precaution for all, and the deliberate refusal for the
passengers to comply could have a fatal result for me.
If I kill the asshole because I fear for my life, will this be
considered an act of self defense?


Discuss.


Ummm. Probably not justified.


Damn, someone who figured it out without a lot of hoopla. *


But... what if they're actually calling the phone connected to a bad
thing in their check bag?


That happens so often that it is probably on the very edge of everyone's
mind as they start that take off roll down the runway. *

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It's impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

William G McAdoo

Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)


I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 08:08 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Shall not be infringed" wrote in message
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But... what if they're actually calling the phone connected to a bad
thing in their check bag?


That happens so often that it is probably on the very edge of everyone's
mind as they start that take off roll down the runway.


[snip]

I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.
--------------------------------------

Some people just need killing.

Obnoxious, loud-mouth cell phone users on airplanes come to mind....


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Old January 22nd, 2012, 01:34 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 22, 2:08*am, "max headroom" wrote:
"Shall not be infringed" wrote in ...

But... what if they're actually calling the phone connected to a bad
thing in their check bag?

That happens so often that it is probably on the very edge of everyone's
mind as they start that take off roll down the runway.


[snip]

I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.
--------------------------------------

Some people just need killing.

Obnoxious, loud-mouth cell phone users on airplanes come to mind....


What about obnoxious, loud-mouthed cell phone users in restaurants?

Or do you think that's too harsh?
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 06:31 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Shall not be infringed wrote in
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On Jan 21, 1:40*pm, RD Sandman
wrote:
Shall not be infringed wrote
innews:4c12

:









On Jan 20, 12:34*pm, RD Sandman
wrote:
Shall not be infringed wrote
innews:6702
:


On Jan 18, 1:41*am, "Charles Dickey"
wrote

:
I did some traveling lately and noted that some passengers who
were told to turn off their phones, did so, and as soon as the
stewardess passed on, they turned them right back on. *This is
a safety precaution for all, and the deliberate refusal for the
passengers to comply could have a fatal result for me.
If I kill the asshole because I fear for my life, will this be
considered an act of self defense?


Discuss.


Ummm. Probably not justified.


Damn, someone who figured it out without a lot of hoopla. *


But... what if they're actually calling the phone connected to a
bad thing in their check bag?


That happens so often that it is probably on the very edge of
everyone's mind as they start that take off roll down the runway. *

--
It's impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

William G McAdoo

Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)


I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.


Unfortunately, there aren't any in that scenario.

--
It's impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

William G McAdoo


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 06:32 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Shall not be infringed" wrote in message
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I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.
--------------------------------------


Some people just need killing.


Obnoxious, loud-mouth cell phone users on airplanes come to mind....


What about obnoxious, loud-mouthed cell phone users in restaurants?

Or do you think that's too harsh?
---------------------------------------------

Probably. You can, after all, leave the restaurant.

On the other hand, inside a dark theatre would be a good time to practice your garrotte skills.


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Old January 22nd, 2012, 06:32 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,talk.politics.guns,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Shall not be infringed wrote in
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On Jan 22, 2:08*am, "max headroom" wrote:
"Shall not be infringed" wrote in
messag


...

But... what if they're actually calling the phone connected to a
bad thing in their check bag?
That happens so often that it is probably on the very edge of
everyone'

s
mind as they start that take off roll down the runway.


[snip]

I'm just looking fore reason's for Charles to legally shoot the
passenger on the phone.
--------------------------------------

Some people just need killing.

Obnoxious, loud-mouth cell phone users on airplanes come to mind....


What about obnoxious, loud-mouthed cell phone users in restaurants?

Or do you think that's too harsh?


Well, you should let them finish eating.....after all, their relatives
will have to pick up the tab.

--
It's impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

William G McAdoo


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)
 




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