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Hello,
I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? Cheers, Jason |
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On 13 Aug, 01:48, Craig Welch wrote:
wrote: I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? There are several crimes involved here. At least one of them would have been committed in Hungary. Which ones? This is what I am trying to understand, not having a knowledge of law. Could you outline the crimes in each country, and there penalties, and where they could be applied? I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? Not at all. With all credit card transactions, the onus is on the merchant to prove that the transaction is a good one. -- Craig http://www.wazu.jp/ 1,238 Unicode fonts for 75 written language groups: |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:48:53 GMT Craig Welch wrote:
wrote: : I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian : credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for : airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the : person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be : refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? :There are several crimes involved here. At least one of them would have :been committed in Hungary. : I am also trying : to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that : you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I : will : be held liable? :Not at all. With all credit card transactions, the onus is on the :merchant to prove that the transaction is a good one. Is that true everywhere? It is true in the US. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. |
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On Aug 13, 4:00 am, wrote:
Hello, I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? What difference does it make? It's not your problem. It sounds almost like you're trying to set someone up. Did a buddy or girlfriend or someone use your card number and you want them arrested? I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? It's not Australian law that matters, it's the Credit Card company written policy. In most cases you're not liable for over $50. If they did had the actual card they'll look at the signature. If, however, you fail to dispute it within a reasonable time (usually 30 days after receiving the statement) you are stuck paying the bill. Just remember that if you dispute it and it turns out that there was something else going on (trying to punish an ex-girl friend or something, or lying about whether or not a transaction was fake) you go to jail. |
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Dave Witmarsh wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:02:47 -0700, mrtravel wrote: wrote: Hello, I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? What did your credit card company say when you called them? No doubt they fed him some line of bull****, that's why he's posting here. Hope that the wades through tedious trolls like you and gets some sort of answer If you say so. I haven't had any such problems with my credit card issuers. I doubt he asked them. |
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On 14 Aug, 08:46, Tchiowa wrote:
On Aug 13, 4:00 am, wrote: Hello, I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? What difference does it make? It's not your problem. It sounds almost like you're trying to set someone up. Did a buddy or girlfriend or someone use your card number and you want them arrested? If I was trying to set someone up I would be asking questions pertaining to the penalties I would face for fraud, not the other way around. I care because I am curious, this happened to me, and I would like use my case for the basis of one of my assignments. I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? It's not Australian law that matters, it's the Credit Card company written policy. Which is changed to be within the laws of the country. For example, I am liable for a minimum of $150 as opposed to 50 everywhere else. In most cases you're not liable for over $50. If they did had the actual card they'll look at the signature. If, however, you fail to dispute it within a reasonable time (usually 30 days after receiving the statement) you are stuck paying the bill. Just remember that if you dispute it and it turns out that there was something else going on (trying to punish an ex-girl friend or something, or lying about whether or not a transaction was fake) you go to jail. Thanks....I think, even then that would be unlikely as it could not be proven, the worst that would happen is I would have to pay... |
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On 14 Aug, 08:37, Dave Witmarsh wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:02:47 -0700, mrtravel wrote: wrote: Hello, I would like to know what would happen in the event of an Australian credit card number being obtained, and used to illegally pay for airline tickets in Ireland, departing from the Hungary. Would the person be arrested trying to use the tickets, or would they simply be refused, as the crime was not committed in hungary? I am also trying to learn about Australian law, as it seems unless you can prove that you didn't make the transaction or give our details out in someway I will be held liable? What did your credit card company say when you called them? No doubt they fed him some line of bull****, that's why he's posting here. Hope that the wades through tedious trolls like you and gets some sort of answer Apparently I made my details available at some stage..., even though I have had it physically on me at all times. They are basing this on my lack of internet transactions and the fact that they had the ccv code. |
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