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Old June 16th, 2006, 04:32 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Caren schrieb:

Yes, but after selling seats for months, don't some airlines have web sales
a week or two before take off time related to how full the planes are? I was
wondering if this concept got extended from "a week before" to "hours
before." But the intent of my query wasn't to challenge ticket pricing
strategy. If there aren't any such websites, then there aren't. I was just
asking.



This spring there was a run of last-minute discount fares to Tokyo. If
you were flexible and could leave with only one-to-three day's notice,
you could get there really cheap. It was a temporary thing, though, I
haven't seen those last-minute fares in weeks.


They do offer such fares on ltur.de as Super Last Minute in the eveing
(German local time).

Well, not to Baku or Port Harcourt because people don't go there on
holidays but on business.
But it happens that people have a few days up to two weeks, they might
stay at home or leave for
Tunisia/Turkey/Crimea/Bulgaria/Italy/Croatia/Egypt/DomRep, whatever is
cheaper.

Regards, ULF

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Old June 16th, 2006, 06:23 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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mrtravel natters:

PTravel wrote:

"mrtravel" wrote in message
. com...

PTravel wrote:


That's a little misleading, though, as the airlines will use those
"empty" seats for non-revs, over-solds, middle-seat-blocks for premium
fliers, etc. However, the point remains the same: airlines do not
discount last-minute seats. Quite the contrary, you will pay
substantially more than the discount rate for a last-minute purchase on
most domestic airlines.

What airline blocks seats that would other be sold?



None of them. Who suggested that any did?

I was responding to the statistic that flights go out only 80% full,

i.e.
it's misleading.


I was confused by how blocking the seats made the number misleading.
Blocked or unblocked, the seats are still counted as empty.
If seats weren't blocked for elites it wouldn't change the percentage.



But we all know that you are a BLOCKHEAD 100% of the time...

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Greg


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Old June 16th, 2006, 08:03 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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"tim(not at home)" wrote:
LH used to do a "you choose the country (or larger region) we
choose the airport" last minute deal at stupid prices. They scrapped
it because of 7/11. It's not obvious why this deal should create a
security risk when normal late bookings don't?


What's all this I hear about 7/11?
A lot of people shop at 7/11, but IMO, their prices tend to be
higher than you can get almost everywhere. They als seem to
be run by foreigners. What? Oh, that's different.. Nevermind.








































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Old June 16th, 2006, 09:44 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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"bunny" wrote in message
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"PTravel" wrote

That's a little misleading, though, as the airlines will use those
"empty" seats for non-revs, over-solds, middle-seat-blocks for premium
fliers, etc.


That's right, and part of that 'etc' is that an empty seat means more
cargo can be loaded. That makes more money for the airline than a
discount butt in a seat.



The cargo analogy is the by far the best explanation of this phenomenon.


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Old June 17th, 2006, 04:40 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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PTravel wrote:
"mrtravel" wrote in message
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PTravel wrote:

That's a little misleading, though, as the airlines will use those
"empty" seats for non-revs, over-solds, middle-seat-blocks for premium
fliers, etc. However, the point remains the same: airlines do not
discount last-minute seats. Quite the contrary, you will pay
substantially more than the discount rate for a last-minute purchase on
most domestic airlines.


What airline blocks seats that would other be sold?


None of them. Who suggested that any did?

I was responding to the statistic that flights go out only 80% full, i.e.
it's misleading.

UA does block Economy Plus seats for elite status passengers, and will sell
them only if there are no other seats available. It does not make them
available at the last minute for discount fares, i.e. you can buy one for a
walk-up fare, but not for the cheap price that the original poster to this
thread was looking for.

When AA used to block seats for FF elites, it was only until if they had
enough unsold seats on the flight. I have had seats come unblocked when
the flight filled.


Right. See above.


20% of seats flown today are empty. Those are the statistics.

js

 




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