Britain turning on US- at its own peril

Tim C. wrote:
Following up to FiveTwoAlphaOne MikeOscarPapa.org :


You state that they're anti-semitic for what? Criticising
Israel?


"If you're not with us, you're against us" seems to be the Fox News
watchers' motto.

I think that it's clear now that the 'us' in 'us' is somewhat
fractured and now refers to less than 30% of the US population.
The Neocons will no doubt see themselves as a victimized
minority after November 7.

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The Reid wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:48:45 -0400, FiveTwoAlphaOne
MikeOscarPapa.org wrote:


This is made

worse by disdain for Bush himself, regarded as a tongue-tied cowboy who
actually believes in God - to the post-religious British, the nearest
thing to a certificate of lunacy.


true


When someone claims to be Christian, other Christians are
free to scrutinize their actions in the light of Jesus's teachings.
Simple. They ARE horrified.


also true!


The biggest single cause of British anti-Americanism, however, is
Israel. Despite being the target for more than half a century of
genocidal Arab and Muslim aggression, Israel is widely perceived in
Britain as the regional bully, and its acts of self-defense


its interesting the the americans can be so blind to the arab side of
the case that they see even handedness as anti semitism.

I had expected to see no more of these posts (I notice "fromage" was
mentioned in one part of the anti europe rant) now that Iraq is near
the point of disaster. Does this mean there are still americans who
think "shock and awe" worked? Or is it just simple trolling?

I think some have been dumbed down the the extent that if
their local Fox channel, pastor, rightwing radio talk host
or newspaper says it, it must be true.

Only an idiot would have allowed an entire undefeated army to walk home
without clear knowledge that the insurgency that EVERYONE
including Saddam predicted, would happen.

Only idiots would have thought that they could invade
countries like Afghnistan and Iraq on the cheap.
Shows that all they really thought of was feathering
their own nests at the expense of the US people and
their allies.

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Padraig Breathnach wrote:

The Reid wrote:


I had expected to see no more of these posts (I notice "fromage" was
mentioned in one part of the anti europe rant) now that Iraq is near
the point of disaster. Does this mean there are still americans who
think "shock and awe" worked? Or is it just simple trolling?


It's Peej who posted it. He's not really a troll, in that he is not
teasing or baiting us. He really believes the stuff. Judge for
yourself whether you should take him seriously.

He's a fool for believing it.


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newspapers such as the
ultra-left Guardian

PeeJay

*PLONK*

johnlsmith

You think the Guardian is not ultra-left? I don't think you share the
same worldview as Peej does. You are mentally healthy.

Padraig Breathnach


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The Reid wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:23:46 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
wrote:


Or is it just simple trolling?

It's Peej who posted it. He's not really a troll, in that he is not
teasing or baiting us. He really believes the stuff.


I get that impression.


Judge for yourself whether you should take him seriously.


I understand 20% of Americans still think the war is going OK.

Hmm, debateable. Probably 20% that have no personal
skin in the game and/or those that cheerlead from
the sidelines for personal financial or political gain.

I reckon they know that all they have to do is cause continuing
casualties and US will eventually pull out.

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Following up to FiveTwoAlphaOne MikeOscarPapa.org :


I think that it's clear now that the 'us' in 'us' is somewhat
fractured and now refers to less than 30% of the US population.
The Neocons will no doubt see themselves as a victimized
minority after November 7.

I hope so.
--
Tim C.

Extract from the Guardian;

" Melanie Phillips in the Mail, April 14 2003: "At every stage of the war,
these armchair appeasers predicted disaster; at every stage, they were
proved wrong. Now, with military victory almost complete ..." Melanie
Phillips in the Mail, Monday: "Creating Iraqi democracy ... was always going
to involve a long and hard war." Indeed."

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:02:22 +0100, "John Rennie"
wrote:

" Melanie Phillips in the Mail, April 14 2003: "At every stage of the war,
these armchair appeasers predicted disaster; at every stage, they were
proved wrong. Now, with military victory almost complete .

ROFL
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:53:52 -0400, FiveTwoAlphaOne
MikeOscarPapa.org wrote:

Only an idiot would have allowed an entire undefeated army to walk home
without clear knowledge that the insurgency that EVERYONE
including Saddam predicted, would happen.

clearly they should have kept the systems in place and not bombed to
infrastructure to hell, it would have been a harder war but they might
not have ensured losing. "Shock and Awe" "shock and or" what? Sensible
planning?
Remember that dimwit Bush declaring victory on the aircraft carrier?
Did he think they would give up?

Only idiots would have thought that they could invade
countries like Afghnistan and Iraq on the cheap.

the lessons of history not learnt
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fractured and now refers to less than 30% of the US population.
The Neocons will no doubt see themselves as a victimized
minority after November 7.

52A1

I hope so.

Tim C

Best not to count chickens before they are hatched.


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October 24, 2006 -- The latest polls show something very strange is
happening: The Republican base seems to be coming back home. This
trend, only vaguely and dimly emerging from a variety of polls,
suggests that a trend may be afoot that would deny the Democrats
control of the House and the Senate.

With two weeks to go, anything can happen, but it is beginning to look
poss- ible that the Democratic surge in the midterm elections may fall
short of control in either House.

Here's the evidence:.....


Senate Could Be Evenly Split Once Again
Oct 24 7:03 PM US/Eastern

Associated Press

WASHINGTON

Expected Democratic gains in the election raise the possibility that
the Senate, for the second time in six years, will end up in a 50-50
tie.....


Republicans would officially still be the majority party in an evenly
divided Senate because Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as
president of the Senate, would give the GOP a tie-breaking vote.