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You are correct Evelyn.
john On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:33:19 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: JohnT wrote: "jm" wrote in message ... If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! john Can we assume that you know that you will need a Visa and that you can at least get by in the language of your chosen Country? Given the above, the choice is, of course, subjective but you could consider - Spain France Croatia I assumed the OP was taking a sort of survey of the countries WE (the respondents) would like to live in, not asking our advise as to where HE should go! JohnT |
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Thanks for your thoughtful comments Dominique. I appreciate it!
john On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:32:23 +0200, Dominique Foucart wrote: Le 19/07/2004, jm a supposé : If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! john I would probably recommend Belgium: - central to all places in Europe - administratively at the core of the EU and NATO, which means that a lot of people here are speaking english as their first, second or third language - compared to Paris (1.5 hours by train) or London (2h20m by train) the cost of life is way cheaper - you get all the cultural, social and entertainment opportunities in the major cities (Brussels, Antwerpen, Liège) - it is host of one of the largest immigration community in europe. The bias to this description: I live there since 47 years... Welcome home, Dominique -- Dominique Foucart Brussels, Capital City of European Community Trails and Hikes in Haute-Savoie: http://www.samoens.int.ms Appartment Rental for Hiking and Skiing: http://dfoucart.tripod.com/samoensquejaime |
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Ah, a lady after my own heart!
London is good for many reasons but a bit too expensive for myself. The ROH itself not to mention the occasional visit to the ENO would certainly be a plus. Vienna is a wonderful place. My somewhat frequent visits to the VSO have left me with some fabulous memories of works done the right way! Paris, I would not live in if they paid ME ! Like a friend of mine says, "the only thing wrong with Paris is the Parisiens." My experience dictates that I agree totally with this. Now, living in Avignon or Arles and taking the train to Paris for a day to hear a performance is fine! Live there? Now way in hades! Thanks for your input Evelyn! john P.S. The performance of Le Prophete I heard a few years back at the VSO was probably the most fulfilling evening I had spent in an opera house in years! On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:30:43 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: jm wrote: If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! 1) England (mainly because I speak the language, but near enough to London for frequent trips to ROH) 2) Austria (near enough to Vienna to attend the opera frequently) 3) France (near enough to Paris for ditto) |
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I agree on the speakign English comment Walter. I have found this in
may parts of Europe. I have spent a fair amount of time in Zurich and Frankfort for business reasons and have never had a problem communicating. Thanks for your comments. john On 20 Jul 2004 00:14:38 -0700, (walter) wrote: If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? 1) Northern half of Italy. Landscape, culture, relaxed way of living. 2) Sweden, if you go only for a summer. 3) Germany, if you don't want to learn the language before you start. Almost everyone older than 10 years speaks english. Walter |
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Thanks for your input ---- appreciate it!
john On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:33:24 +0200, "Kaitsu" wrote: "jm" wrote in message If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. Top 3 Switzerland (german part) Southern Germany Belgium Netherlands Okay there are four but couldn't decide between Belgium and Netherlands. Why these countries? Climate is quite nice. Location is good. People are okay. Customer service in shops, restaurants, garages, etc is good, even if you don't speak the same language. Low 3 France People are so unfriendly that I wouldn't live there. There is no customer service. I think there are no such word in French ;-) If you want to buy anything it takes forever. Even buying food from supermarkets takes forever. And the client is always wrong. No one cares about rules, laws or regulations. It's like third world country if you look how people act. If you don't speak _fluent_ French, forget it. No one cares about other people. If you like extremely selfish people, move to France. Italy Too relaxed way of life for me. A bit same as France but the generally the customer service is a bit better and people are more friendly. But for everyday life it's bit too "relaxed". Anyway, it's a nice country as a holiday destination. Britain Why? Location and the climate. Otherwise it would be just fine. |
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Thaks John --- I will check out your site. I appreciate your input!
john On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:23:29 GMT, John Bermont wrote: jm wrote: If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! john I would select France, Holland, and Belgium, in that order. Before you move over have a look at my page http://www.enjoy-europe.com/hte/chap22/living.htm. I've lived in Europe several times and this chapter from my book recounts many items of interest. John Bermont -- ------------------------------------------------------ * * * Mastering Independent Budget Travel * * * http://www.enjoy-europe.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ |
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jm wrote: If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! But it surely does depend on *what* you want. Climate? Economy? All mod cons? Wonderful people? History? Scenery? Very unfortunately, they don't all tend to come in the same package! Surreyman |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:30:43 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: jm wrote: If you wanted to move from the USA to Europe, which top three countries would you consider? Make cost of living a factor in some and not in others. I appreciate your input! 1) England (mainly because I speak the language, but near enough to London for frequent trips to ROH) 2) Austria (near enough to Vienna to attend the opera frequently) 3) France (near enough to Paris for ditto) None of the above. Pick any Scandinavian country where everyone speaks English (much more distinguishable I might add than in England), the standard of living very high, and the European arrogance and incompetence factor low. |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:18:59 +0200, "Kaitsu"
wrote: "Magda" wrote in message A friend of mine, who has been living in France for two years, said exactly the same to me yesterday. But I see none of that; we don't live in the same France ! Ýou have just stayed too long in France. You have started to think all stode unfriendly faces, huge delays, frequent strikes, 2 hour lunch breaks, low qualiyt customer service and slfish attitude are normal. You should move to Germany (for example) for few months and you would notice a fairly big difference :-) But if you like selfish people, you are never in hurry and you like to make scraths to other people cars, France is a good place to live for you. I couldn't have put it better myself. Why live in a has been country where their stupidity is only surpassed by their perfidity and arrogance? |
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