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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament; not hysterical
leftist ranting. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...lls/index.html (Don't neglect to click on page Two link at bottom) Tim K |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
You've gotta wonder why someone would insist on calling
partisan opinions "facts." Capitalizing it doesn't help either. The opinions may or may to be valid, but the credibility of the one proclaiming "FACT" really suffers. Tim Kroesen wrote: FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament; not hysterical leftist ranting. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...lls/index.html (Don't neglect to click on page Two link at bottom) Tim K |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
I consider the words of someone who *trained* air marshals, and helped
to develop tactics, more *factual* than any of the kibitzers posting on the subject so far here... What did you find less than FACTUAL (Baloney) by this professional??? Do you think they should have found some Leftist 'partisan' peace-nik for the job? The article has nothing to do with *my* credibility either in posting it. As even you admit; it *may* be "valid" (FACTUAL) despite your attempt to diffuse it by ****ing on me and my choice of subject wording. Matter of FACT; let's all wonder your motive in doing so. Tim K "Joey Balonio" wrote in message ... You've gotta wonder why someone would insist on calling partisan opinions "facts." Capitalizing it doesn't help either. The opinions may or may to be valid, but the credibility of the one proclaiming "FACT" really suffers. Tim Kroesen wrote: FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament; not hysterical leftist ranting. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...lls/index.html (Don't neglect to click on page Two link at bottom) Tim K |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:08:58 GMT, Joey Balonio
wrote: You've gotta wonder why someone would insist on calling partisan opinions "facts." I wonder why you would characterize the article cited by the OP as "partisan opinion." At least it was written by someone with specific knowledge of air marshall training. The recent thread discussing potential aircraft damage, head shots, overcoats, and physics seems to be no more than the normal rampant speculation by a bunch of r.t.e posters with no applicable credentials. Gordon |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
Gordon Forbess wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:08:58 GMT, Joey Balonio wrote: You've gotta wonder why someone would insist on calling partisan opinions "facts." I wonder why you would characterize the article cited by the OP as "partisan opinion." As oppose to what, vested interest? It's in "guns and ammo" and it's by someone paid to train these folks. It definitely ain't "fact". Well, better put, there was alot of opinion in there. It was a point of view piece by someone who supports and believes in the program. It wasn't written to be critical and in fact was intended to be quite the opposite. At least it was written by someone with specific knowledge of air marshall training. The recent thread discussing potential aircraft damage, head shots, overcoats, and physics seems to be no more than the normal rampant speculation by a bunch of r.t.e posters with no applicable credentials. That there may be worse discussions, doesn't elavate the article to the level of "fact". |
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The really sad/funny thing about this are those that object to arming
the flight crew to prevent hostile take-over. Like we don't *trust* the flight crew with our lives by default to begin with...g BTW this was the most authoritative article on the subject I found in a Google; yep, in Guns and Ammo... Tim K "Emilia" wrote in message ... "Tim Kroesen" wrote in news:vvrm4hcql4jpa1 @corp.supernews.com: FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament; not hysterical leftist ranting. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...lls/index.html (Don't neglect to click on page Two link at bottom) Tim K I like this sentence: "Of course, the most important system to avoid shooting is the pilot or co- pilot." I would say that was a FACT.... |
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Having read the article, I wonder what I would do if there was a
commotion on the flight and the fellow next to me reached in his jacket and pulled out a gun. If he is an air marshal, you want to stay out of his way, but if he his a confederate of the high jackers', you would have about a tenth of a second to try and disarm him. Not a real problem, I suppose, since I'm pretty sure I would be in a terror induced paralysis. |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
The Israeli National airline has had the equivalent of 'Sky Marshals'
Armed agents) for Decades on their flights and I don't think there has ever been a successful hijacking. I believe there were some foiled attempts... Tim K "Emilia" wrote in message ... "Tim Kroesen" wrote in news:vvue3pqko37k11 @corp.supernews.com: The really sad/funny thing about this are those that object to arming the flight crew to prevent hostile take-over. Like we don't *trust* the flight crew with our lives by default to begin with...g BTW this was the most authoritative article on the subject I found in a Google; yep, in Guns and Ammo... Tim K Didn't you think that sentence was funny?? Come on, it had to make you chuckle! Anyway, while Sweden & Portugal refused to put armed "marshals" on their planes the Swiss said "Hey, we've had armed guards on our planes for thirty years". How many attempted hi-jackings of planes from any of those countries? Are there statistics anywhere? "Emilia" wrote in message ... "Tim Kroesen" wrote in news:vvrm4hcql4jpa1 @corp.supernews.com: FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament; not hysterical leftist ranting. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...lls/index.html (Don't neglect to click on page Two link at bottom) Tim K I like this sentence: "Of course, the most important system to avoid shooting is the pilot or co- pilot." I would say that was a FACT.... |
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FACTS on Air Marshal training, tactics and armament
"Tim Kroesen" wrote in news:vvue3pqko37k11
: The really sad/funny thing about this are those that object to arming the flight crew to prevent hostile take-over. Like we don't *trust* the flight crew with our lives by default to begin with...g Everyone is worried about having an Armed Sky-Marshall on the plane. My Assumptions about this are that: 1) The ASM might shoot a hole in the plane or cause the Hostiles to do it. 2) Or that the Pilot & Co-Pilot might get killed and no one will know how to land the plane. Well, in these 2 cases, how about REQUIRING ALL ASMs to learn how to land the planes???? The ASMs won't need to know how to take-off, but they SHOULD learn how to land... and if it was my job, I'd want to know! In case #3, where the Hostiles win... everything else wouldn't matter much! Would it? And judging by how much coverage the News Services (et al) are giving this and how much the World has changed because of this, Haven't the Hostiles won a bit too much already? And let's not forget PrezShrub's suspending Constitutional rights, disrupting commerce, not providing any visible internal protections instead going outside the country & starting a War, and of course, using this all to Campaign for the next PrezElection, etc. As others have suggested, was it all just a Plan put into effect by the Shrub & his daddy? But it's unlikely that any theory like this would ever be admitted to... it might even be a bit too much for a temporary gov't employee with an 8-year job to do! (that would be the Prez) Oops, sorry for going a little off subject and ranting. |
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