17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey

wrote:

On 25 jun, 14:39, "William Black" wrote:


France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim
state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever.


A Muslim state? Surely Turkey is a secular state? :-)

But more Muslim than it was in the 1920's! (When Turkey
gave women the vote even before the U.S. did.)

B;

Alfred Molon:
In article , Erick T.
Barkhuis says...

Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?

Would any of them file charges?

The parents might do so.

Why would they? Their child is as "guilty" as the other parents' child.

What would happen in such a case?

I'm not a lawyer, but I assume that the case would be dismissed if no
rape or assault can be proven. Perhaps some psychologist is going to
write a report, and tell the kids to "not do that anymore!"

He may tell'em with a smile on his face, though.

On Jun 25, 5:24 pm, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:18:06 +0100, (David Horne, _the_



chancellor (*)) wrote:
Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:38:22 +0200, UC wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
wrote:

On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
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Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.
Like Bulgaria?
Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".
Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,
Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

North African countries, Jordan and the Lebanon are eligible to apply
too.

Why EU? let's call it Roman Empire.

Are you going to kick out the Scots and Scandinavians?

I was thinking the same thing!

I tried to thought of east European countries but I am not certain which ones
the Roman's conquered. I take it Rumania was part of the Roman Empire but
Hungary probabl;y wasn't.

There is a map herehttp://www.yukoncollege.yk.ca/~agraham/nost202/module3/cphistory/grap...

Let's call it the Evil Empire?
--

Allright, and Dart Vader as emperor.

U.

On Jun 25, 5:17 pm, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:38:22 +0200, UC wrote:
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
wrote:

On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
wrote in message
oglegroups.com...
Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.
Like Bulgaria?
Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".
Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,
Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

North African countries, Jordan and the Lebanon are eligible to apply
too.

Why EU? let's call it Roman Empire.

Are you going to kick out the Scots and Scandinavians?
--

Scotland would finally split from Britannia, they would be eternally
grateful to me.

ciao, U.

Turan Fettahoglu wrote:

yeah but how many know that Turkey charge UK citizens a higher visa
feel than
other citizens of the EU? :-) They even have a separate queue for
Brits at
immigration.


Are you kidding? I would have seen this queue in the airports of
Istanbul, Izmir or Antalya. As a German you do not need a visa, only
your identiy card or your passport, and Germany is in the same EU as
Great Britain.

And what difference does the EU make?

Following up to "Turan Fettahoglu" wrote:

but many
hotel-keepers might like to give the boy and the girl a decent spanking, not
to mention the judge who put the boy behind bars.

they have failed to take account of the difference between two young
people having some sort of sexual contact and an older person and a
young person, which is what is frowned on most in modern systems.
--
Mike Reid
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Following up to "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:

A Muslim state? Surely Turkey is a secular state? :-)

But more Muslim than it was in the 1920's! (When Turkey
gave women the vote even before the U.S. did.)

maybe EU should outlaw "established" churches.
--
Mike Reid
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Following up to "Turan Fettahoglu" wrote:

other citizens of the EU? :-) They even have a separate queue for Brits at
immigration.

Are you kidding?

yuo get that arriving in UK at some places.
--
Mike Reid
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Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?

I do not know when youths enter the age of discretion (Strafmündigkeit) in
Turkey. In Germany it would be 14 years, so both offenders could not be
prosecuted.

Perhaps this page might help a bit: http://piology.org/dtl/recht.html

The legal age of consent is 18 in Turkey, so it is irrelevant that the girl
claimed to be 15. In Germany the boy could save himself with this.

But never mind what happened: it is just a bit too much to put a 17-year-old
boy into jail if the girl still is a virgin!

Frowned up on? People have proposed chemical castration.

Hope I am not too curious: how old were you when you kissed or caressed a
girl for the first time?