Time to stop flying?

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:55:22 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:01 +0200, "Tim C." wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:49:34 +0100, Mike.... wrote:

Following up to Tim C.

Yes, except in my analogy I'm equating the concert pianist with someone
who can actually fly a plane.

So anyone other than a concert pianist cannot actually play a piano?

no, concert pianists cannot fly aeroplanes.

can pianists fly carboard pianos?

duh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSXRP...eature=related

Typhoon flown by a pianist. Note the bit at the end where he turned the page of
the sheet music.

Phew! close.

Or this one flown by MSFS pilot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGDyBCb_EsU&NR=1

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Tim C.

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:15:38 +0200, Martin wrote:

and this one that terrified our cat yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LVR...eature=related

Beautiful planes. I was once in the Brecon Beacons when a handful flew low
overhead in formation through the valley. Wonderful

--
Tim C.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

It was answered in the first sentence you quoted above. Do try to keep
up.

No, that was a rehash of your previous statement, in which you allude to
some
sort of difference between the instruments but do not actually explain it.

Is there really an objective difference, or is it just your subjective
opinion? In the former case, explain it; in the latter case, admit it.

It's like the difference between flying in a real airplane and playing a
flying game on your computer...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Martin writes:

There's something unreal
about the idea of air traffic controllers going home knackered and
getting a bit
of R&R by trying to control Red Baron Mixi.

Then you don't understand the work. That's a bit like saying that
professional musicians can't possibly enjoy playing music at home after
doing
it at work.

They practice at home.

They also play the stuff they want to play.

When you get paid you play what they pay you for.

They may not be the same thing.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Nothing wrong with learning on an electronic piano for amateurs. You
won't become a highly trained classical pianist that way.

but you could learn the basics, couldnt you?

Yes, except in my analogy I'm equating the concert pianist with someone
who can actually fly a plane.

I dont really follow the above.
You can learn basic piano fingering on an electronic instrument, you can*
familiarise yourself with a lot of navigation on MSFS.

And you won't become either a classical pianist or pilot by only using
electronic keyboards or MSFS.

The only concert pianist I know took lessons.

Actually, just about every professional musician, including old folkies
like myself, took lessons at some point. There are very few self-taught
professional musicians.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"William Black" kirjoitti
.. .

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

It was answered in the first sentence you quoted above. Do try to keep
up.

No, that was a rehash of your previous statement, in which you allude to
some
sort of difference between the instruments but do not actually explain
it.

Is there really an objective difference, or is it just your subjective
opinion? In the former case, explain it; in the latter case, admit it.

It's like the difference between flying in a real airplane and playing a
flying game on your computer...

In his case not so different. Keep in mind that the turd is able to navigate
in any road network form any point of origin to any point of destination
along the optimal route by just saving the latter point into his GPS
plotter. The chap is a vegetable.

Following up to William Black

Then you don't understand the work. That's a bit like saying that
professional musicians can't possibly enjoy playing music at home after
doing
it at work.

They practice at home.

they might be practicing ATC

They also play the stuff they want to play.

they control the traffic they want to

When you get paid you play what they pay you for.

its not working is it?
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"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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Following up to William Black

It's like the difference between flying in a real airplane and playing a
flying game on your computer...

flying simulation please!
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"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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"Mike...." wrote in message
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Following up to William Black

Then you don't understand the work. That's a bit like saying that
professional musicians can't possibly enjoy playing music at home after
doing
it at work.

They practice at home.

they might be practicing ATC

They also play the stuff they want to play.

they control the traffic they want to

When you get paid you play what they pay you for.

its not working is it?

For Mixi the Mad, no...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor


must be unusual though.

Probably, but you can fly younger than you can drive- or at least that
used to be the case. I've not done either for a long time...

so was that as a certified pilot, or as a trainee with another pilot?

What do you think? I've mentioned this before.

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