Time to stop flying?

Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Probably, but you can fly younger than you can drive- or at least that
used to be the case. I've not done either for a long time...

so was that as a certified pilot, or as a trainee with another pilot?

What do you think? I've mentioned this before.

Not in a thread I read I suspect.

You suspect wrong. I had a couple of flying lessons when a teenager.

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Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

no, subscription went wrong! Frankly I dont believe it.

hard graft = mediocre
hard graft + talent = success

I think that's an equation which perhaps comforts some people who maybe
didn't work hard enough. I see no evidence of it in the teaching I do.

so theres no such thing as aptitude, flair and creativity!!! Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are doing
it just be work rate? I find that very surprising. In photography I see
people who havent a clue and those who have. Those with a clue will always
be better on equal effort. Same for running. Same for being a pilot no
doubt. People with good eye hand co ordination are always better at sports.
Intelligence shows through in accountancy, however hard you work.
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Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

no, subscription went wrong! Frankly I dont believe it.

hard graft = mediocre
hard graft + talent = success

I think that's an equation which perhaps comforts some people who maybe
didn't work hard enough. I see no evidence of it in the teaching I do.

so theres no such thing as aptitude, flair and creativity!!!

Yes- and it can all be worked on, improved upon, and unlocked in the
right envirnoment for many people who otherwise would considfer
themselves not to have those skills.

Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are doing
it just be work rate?

Not all concert violinists (or pianists for that matter) were child
prodigies, and the ones that were generally came from backgrounds where
they were encouraged to play the instrument at a very early age. And
work on it!

This is quite obvious.

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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Not in a thread I read I suspect.

You suspect wrong. I had a couple of flying lessons when a teenager.

mixi
you never stated if you qualified.
/mixi
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Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Not in a thread I read I suspect.

You suspect wrong. I had a couple of flying lessons when a teenager.

mixi
you never stated if you qualified.
/mixi

I didn't need to.

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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Yes- and it can all be worked on, improved upon, and unlocked in the
right envirnoment for many people who otherwise would considfer
themselves not to have those skills.

that's a different thing altogether.

I said
work + poor aptitude = mediocre
work + good aptitude = success

I didnt say anything about people not knowing they had aptitude.

Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are doing
it just be work rate?

Not all concert violinists (or pianists for that matter) were child
prodigies,

I didnt say they were. I said did those who were do it just by work effort.

and the ones that were generally came from backgrounds where
they were encouraged to play the instrument at a very early age. And
work on it!

would *any* child given the opportunity and doing the work do as well?
clearly a child with an obvious learning difficulty or physical imparement
would not. The same must be true of less obvious lack of ability by degree.

This is quite obvious.

that I have happened upon a new brand of PCness?
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Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

You suspect wrong. I had a couple of flying lessons when a teenager.

mixi
you never stated if you qualified.
/mixi

I didn't need to.

you could have been a prodigy
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Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Yes- and it can all be worked on, improved upon, and unlocked in the
right envirnoment for many people who otherwise would considfer
themselves not to have those skills.

that's a different thing altogether.

I said
work + poor aptitude = mediocre
work + good aptitude = success

I didnt say anything about people not knowing they had aptitude.

I'm rejecting your fuzzy notion of aptitude.

Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are doing
it just be work rate?

Not all concert violinists (or pianists for that matter) were child
prodigies,

I didnt say they were. I said did those who were do it just by work effort.

Quite possibly.

and the ones that were generally came from backgrounds where
they were encouraged to play the instrument at a very early age. And
work on it!

would *any* child given the opportunity and doing the work do as well?

Many would.

clearly a child with an obvious learning difficulty or physical imparement
would not. The same must be true of less obvious lack of ability by degree.

This is quite obvious.

that I have happened upon a new brand of PCness?

What's PC about it?

I think it's rather un-PC in fact, the view I'm taking. That is, people
aren't lacking ability- but they often lack the other valuable assets
required- such as a penchant for hard work.

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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

You suspect wrong. I had a couple of flying lessons when a teenager.

mixi
you never stated if you qualified.
/mixi

I didn't need to.

you could have been a prodigy

I meant what I said- it wouldn't have made a difference.

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(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

I didnt say anything about people not knowing they had aptitude.

I'm rejecting your fuzzy notion of aptitude.

fuzzy is it? All people have equal abilities, do they?

Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are doing
it just be work rate?

would *any* child given the opportunity and doing the work do as well?

Many would.

not all then, thats my point.

clearly a child with an obvious learning difficulty or physical imparement
would not. The same must be true of less obvious lack of ability by degree.

This is quite obvious.

that I have happened upon a new brand of PCness?

What's PC about it?

believing everybody is equal in ability

I think it's rather un-PC in fact, the view I'm taking. That is, people
aren't lacking ability-

but we dont start equal. Thats why we make a point of talking only about
equal *opportunities*

but they often lack the other valuable assets
required- such as a penchant for hard work.

they might or might not. (you are there admitting talent is a factor by the
way)
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