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Old January 21st, 2012, 12:54 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Kurt Ullman
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

er I mean ship...
Costa Crociere SpA, which offered support to the captain in the hours
after the emergency, has now turned its back on the man who is under
investigation for manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his
ship. Schettino, who was jailed after he left the ship, is under house
arrest near Naples.
Costa in recent days has suspended Schettino, announced it is no longer
paying his legal fees and has signed on as a civil party in the
prosecution, a move that positions it as an injured party and would
allow it to seek damages in the case of a guilty verdict.

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Old January 21st, 2012, 01:40 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Kenn Smith
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

Can't blame them. I would most likely do the same thing in the same
position. So far as throwing him under the bus/ship, I think he was
already under there just waiting for it to slide off into the deep.

So far as sueing for damages I thought that to be really funny. They
could bankrupt the captain and collect maybe .00001% of the cost of
recovery.

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Old January 21st, 2012, 02:13 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Gettamulla Tupya[_2_]
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:54:55 -0500, Kurt Ullman wrote:

er I mean ship...
Costa Crociere SpA, which offered support to the captain in the hours
after the emergency, has now turned its back on the man who is under
investigation for manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his
ship. Schettino, who was jailed after he left the ship, is under house
arrest near Naples.
Costa in recent days has suspended Schettino, announced it is no longer
paying his legal fees and has signed on as a civil party in the
prosecution, a move that positions it as an injured party and would
allow it to seek damages in the case of a guilty verdict.


I have yet to see one report about the man more likely to be guilty of a crime than the
Captain of the ship.

The Staff Captain.

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Old January 21st, 2012, 07:13 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Jim G
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

On 1/20/2012 8:13 PM, Gettamulla Tupya wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:54:55 -0500, Kurt wrote:

er I mean ship...
Costa Crociere SpA, which offered support to the captain in the hours
after the emergency, has now turned its back on the man who is under
investigation for manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his
ship. Schettino, who was jailed after he left the ship, is under house
arrest near Naples.
Costa in recent days has suspended Schettino, announced it is no longer
paying his legal fees and has signed on as a civil party in the
prosecution, a move that positions it as an injured party and would
allow it to seek damages in the case of a guilty verdict.


I have yet to see one report about the man more likely to be guilty of a crime than the
Captain of the ship.

The Staff Captain.

I agree with these comments that place blame with the Captain but I also
question the complicity of a company that would promoted this man to a
position of responsibility (who chose a hasty exit to a lifeboat,
together with other senior officers (if this proves to be the case)).

Let's review: People died, people are missing, a $400M Euro ship is on
the rocks with tons of fuel that may yet pollute the coast, 1000 ship
hands are unemployed, 100s (?) of vendors that (probably) had contracts
to supply (food/drink/excursions) future cruises are ended, and perhaps
hundreds of thousands of future passengers are left looking for
alternatives.

This is not just the failure of the ship's officer staff to fulfill
their duty but a COLOSSAL corporate **** up!
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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:40 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Kurt Ullman
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

In article ,
Jim G wrote:


I agree with these comments that place blame with the Captain but I also
question the complicity of a company that would promoted this man to a
position of responsibility (who chose a hasty exit to a lifeboat,
together with other senior officers (if this proves to be the case)).


Pure Peter Principle. People tend to rise to the level of their
incompetence. Problem is you never know the level of incompetence until
they exhibit it. Six inches to the left and we never know he is
imcompetent.



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Old January 21st, 2012, 03:12 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Tom K
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

On 1/20/12 6:54 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
er I mean ship...
Costa Crociere SpA, which offered support to the captain in the hours
after the emergency, has now turned its back on the man who is under
investigation for manslaughter, causing a shipwreck and abandoning his
ship. Schettino, who was jailed after he left the ship, is under house
arrest near Naples.
Costa in recent days has suspended Schettino, announced it is no longer
paying his legal fees and has signed on as a civil party in the
prosecution, a move that positions it as an injured party and would
allow it to seek damages in the case of a guilty verdict.


The Captain had apparently done the same thing 3-4 times before. Wonder
why nobody from the company bothered to check the route he took those
times. It would show the same deviation from the course. They spend a
lot of time tracking the course on paper charts... doesn't anybody
bother looking at them?

Or the former senior captain that the current captain was waving to and
on the phone with, wonder why he never bothered to call the company
about the unsafe maneuver his former subordinate was performing?

Or even the junior officers who were on the bridge. A simple phone call
to the head office, even if confidentially, that the captain was
repeatedly deviating from the course could have solved the problem.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 06:19 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus..

Tom K wrote:

The Captain had apparently done the same thing 3-4 times before. Wonder
why nobody from the company bothered to check the route he took those
times. It would show the same deviation from the course. They spend a
lot of time tracking the course on paper charts... doesn't anybody bother looking at them?

Or the former senior captain that the current captain was waving to and
on the phone with, wonder why he never bothered to call the company about
the unsafe maneuver his former subordinate was performing?

Or even the junior officers who were on the bridge. A simple phone call
to the head office, even if confidentially, that the captain was
repeatedly deviating from the course could have solved the problem.


Not just what he did in the past. The ship is tracked at all times these
days. Someone should be monitoring the route at all times. If they have not
been monitoring the actual real time position of their ships that is
something they need to start doing now.

Also they need to allow the crew to say no to the Captain if there is a
safety violation if there is now not such a rule. Hopefully they are not
still following 19th century rules.

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Charles
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Old January 21st, 2012, 07:02 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
C M
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus.. - Tom

i should have said jr. officers don't snitch on the captain !

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Old January 21st, 2012, 07:49 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
C M
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Default Costa throws Capt under the bus.. - Tom

it's like this ~ doctors don't snitch on other doctors. lawyers don't
snitch on other lawyers. cops don't snitch on other cops, and "Jr.
officers" don't snitch on other officers.

 




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