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Old May 9th, 2004, 02:51 PM
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hi everyone,

in Sep 2004 our family of 3 will be migrating to Brisbane from USA ...
ideally, we'd like to make our initial stay in AUS longer than 1 year before
returning to US for a brief family visit ...

1) are there any round-trip fairs that allow for a longer-than 1 year stay?

2) are we better off just booking a one-way?

3) should we consider a round-the-world fair or are they all limited to 1
year as well?

finally, Hawaiian Airlines operates a 767-300 from Oahu to Sydney ... does
anyone know what type of seats are used in their business/1st class? how
wide are they, etc.? our son will be almost 2 in Sep. and we're trying to
decide whether to book him a separate seat or just have him share with us?

thank you for all the info.


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Old May 10th, 2004, 07:31 AM
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On Sun, 9 May 2004 06:51:15 -0700, "4000 psi"
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hi everyone,

in Sep 2004 our family of 3 will be migrating to Brisbane from USA ...
ideally, we'd like to make our initial stay in AUS longer than 1 year before
returning to US for a brief family visit ...

1) are there any round-trip fairs that allow for a longer-than 1 year stay?


No.
You might however want to check with airlines to see if an open ticket
could be extended past the 12 month limit.

2) are we better off just booking a one-way?


Book one way.
Alternatively look at some of the cheap return fares being offered now
and watch for future fares and buy one of these/throw away the return.

OW tickets 'are' expensive.

3) should we consider a round-the-world fair or are they all limited to 1
year as well?


One year max.

One year/open return tickets are going to be at the top end of the
market.

finally, Hawaiian Airlines operates a 767-300 from Oahu to Sydney ... does
anyone know what type of seats are used in their business/1st class? how
wide are they, etc.?


Info is on their website.
IIRC they only have two classes on this type of aircraft i.e. First &
Coach,

our son will be almost 2 in Sep. and we're trying to
decide whether to book him a separate seat or just have him share with us?


On Hawaiian Airlines' domestic routes (excluding Sydney, Australia;
Papeete, Tahiti and Pago Pago, America Samoa), infants under the age
of 2 years travel free of charge when traveling with an adult (16
years or older). The infant is not assigned a seat and is held on the
adult's lap for the duration of the flight. If the infant requires a
seat, please book the infant as a regular passenger. Maximum is 1
infant per adult.

For international travel (Sydney, Australia, Pago Pago American Samoa
or Papeete, Tahiti), infants under the age of 2, who do not occupy a
separate seat are charged 10% of the adult fare plus applicable taxes/
fees and must be accompanied by a passenger at least 16 years of age.
A separate ticket and boarding pass will be issued upon payment at
time of check-in.

If you are traveling with an infant, pursuant to federal regulations,
you cannot sit in a designated exit row seat or a seat directly
adjacent to an exit. Also, due to federal regulations, only one infant
is allowed per row with seating as follows due to the availability of
oxygen mask:

- On our 717 aircraft, the lap child must be seated in the middle seat
of the right seat group.
- On our 767 aircraft, the lap child must be seated in the middle seat
of the middle seat group.

Please note that an infant less than 7 days old may not travel unless
you have a doctor's certificate dated within one day of travel stating
that the infant will not require any extraordinary medical assistance
during the flight. The final decision to transport an infant less than
7 days old will be that of Hawaiian Airlines.

Car seats, bassinets, infant carrying seats, or strollers are all
accepted as check-in baggage as part of the free baggage allowance for
the accompanying ticketed adult passenger. (There is no separate
baggage allowance for infants held in a passenger's lap.) When in
excess of the 2 piece baggage allowance, the passenger will be charged
for the excess piece (car seat, bassinet, infant carrying seat, or
stroller). These items may be carried on the aircraft as part of their
2 piece carry-on baggage allowance provided the item can properly fit
in the overhead compartment or stowed beneath the seat in front.


From my experience of travelling with little ones:
buy a seperate ticket!
I can't imagine what it would be like holding a 2 yo for 10 hours
between the two of you if the next seat is not vacant.
The seat would also allow you to take his/her car seat in which he/she
would be safely and securely strapped particularly during bouts of
turbulance.

thank you for all the info.


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Old May 11th, 2004, 02:23 PM
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On Sun, 9 May 2004 06:51:15 -0700, "4000 psi"
wrote:

hi everyone,

in Sep 2004 our family of 3 will be migrating to Brisbane from USA ...
ideally, we'd like to make our initial stay in AUS longer than 1 year

before
returning to US for a brief family visit ...

1) are there any round-trip fairs that allow for a longer-than 1 year

stay?

No.
You might however want to check with airlines to see if an open ticket
could be extended past the 12 month limit.


would i need to get this in writing from the airline or is a verbal
agrrement solid enough?




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Old May 11th, 2004, 05:18 PM
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:23:58 -0700, "4000 psi"
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 May 2004 06:51:15 -0700, "4000 psi"
wrote:

hi everyone,

in Sep 2004 our family of 3 will be migrating to Brisbane from USA ...
ideally, we'd like to make our initial stay in AUS longer than 1 year

before
returning to US for a brief family visit ...

1) are there any round-trip fairs that allow for a longer-than 1 year

stay?

No.
You might however want to check with airlines to see if an open ticket
could be extended past the 12 month limit.


would i need to get this in writing from the airline or is a verbal
agrrement solid enough?

*If* you could get it in writing, good luck.
Verbal agreements do not mean a thing.

You would be better getting a cheap fare one way then buying a return
ticket. There are a lot of legal insights that would make it safer
for you to do this particularly if the flight had a
mishap/injuries/loss of life [something people do not realise].

Cath


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Old May 12th, 2004, 09:07 AM
Dave Campbell
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wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:23:58 -0700, "4000 psi"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 9 May 2004 06:51:15 -0700, "4000 psi"
wrote:

hi everyone,

in Sep 2004 our family of 3 will be migrating to Brisbane from USA ...
ideally, we'd like to make our initial stay in AUS longer than 1 year

before
returning to US for a brief family visit ...

1) are there any round-trip fairs that allow for a longer-than 1 year

stay?

No.
You might however want to check with airlines to see if an open ticket
could be extended past the 12 month limit.


would i need to get this in writing from the airline or is a verbal
agrrement solid enough?

*If* you could get it in writing, good luck.
Verbal agreements do not mean a thing.

You would be better getting a cheap fare one way then buying a return
ticket. There are a lot of legal insights that would make it safer
for you to do this particularly if the flight had a
mishap/injuries/loss of life [something people do not realise].

Cath


Just a thought: Perhaps a return ticket, with the intention of doing a
no-show for the return leg.... then, if something unexpected happens (family
crisis, incurable homesickness etc) you have one side of the trip covered.
Otherwise, you *might* be able to get some sort of partial refund on the
unused part. (Check the price of return tickets booked from US and Aus -
could be quite different.)

OK, so not a very coherent thought.....
Dave Campbell.


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Old May 12th, 2004, 10:01 AM
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:23:58 -0700, "4000 psi"
wrote:

would i need to get this in writing from the airline or is a verbal
agrrement solid enough?


Thirty-odd years ago, when we were handling a contract with a french
company (no slur intended, just happened to be french in this case), my
boss had a large sign showing a picture of a guy smoking Gauloise and
wearing a beret mounted on the wall outside his office.

The caption was:

"I trust you Pierre, but put it in writing."

I've found that advice invaluable in dealing with contracts, big and
small, personal and business, ever since.

It has saved me an awful lot of anguish. The rare occasions when I
ignored it have created more problems than all of the other agreements I
have been involved in.

You make your own decision.

Cheers, Alan
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