Ship Attacks

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:11 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot
net wrote:

I am not talking about that lame stuff.
When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel.
What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the news.
That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken off.
What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the pirates.
I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion dollar
investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device.
At some point you have to put rounds into bodies.
Small arms fire just can close the distance.
My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry.

Hi G&V,

As I stated earlier, the cruise lines have a number of ways to repel
pirates and protect their investment. They are not going to publish
this information on the Internet to satisfy your curiosity. The so
called "lame" defense did work. How do you argue with the facts in
the Seabourn attempt?

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
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"G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot net wrote in message
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"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:42:36 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot
net wrote:

With the rash of rash of pirate and terrorist stories, the cruise lines
must
have contingency plans to repel attacks.
In all the cruises we have taken on many lines, we have never seen any
weapons
displayed.
Does anyone know what contingency plans cruise lines have to deal with
attacks.

Hi,

The cruise lines do have elaborate plans for protection that include
special weapons from pirates. Due to security reasons, they do not
publish them for public consumption on the internet. A Seabourn ship
was attacked a few years ago and repelled the attackers with one of
these weapons. You might want to Google long range acoustic device
(LRAD) for more insight.
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The cruise lines do have elaborate plans for protection that include
special weapons from pirates. Due to security reasons, they do not
publish them for public consumption on the internet. A Seabourn ship
was attacked a few years ago and repelled the attackers with one of
these weapons. You might want to Google long range acoustic device
(LRAD) for more insight.

I am not talking about that lame stuff.
When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel.
What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the
news.
That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken
off.
What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the
pirates.
I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion
dollar
investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device.
At some point you have to put rounds into bodies.
Small arms fire just can close the distance.
My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry.
G&V




In all the cruises we have taken on many lines, we have never seen any
weapons
displayed

Would you prefer to see all the waiters carrying machine guns, grenades,
RPGs Etc while they serve your dinner so that you feel safe while you eat
it, seriously though dont worry all the cruise liners carry an awsome
armoury of long range peashooters, spud guns and catapaults also, the crew
all hold a black belt in origami (if that's spelt right) so you have nothing
to fear

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:15:48 -0000, "Richard Bird"
wrote:

Would you prefer to see all the waiters carrying machine guns, grenades,
RPGs Etc while they serve your dinner so that you feel safe while you eat
it, seriously though dont worry all the cruise liners carry an awsome
armoury of long range peashooters, spud guns and catapaults also, the crew
all hold a black belt in origami (if that's spelt right) so you have nothing
to fear

Hi Richard,

There you go. You let the cat out of the bag! :+)

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:15:48 -0000, "Richard Bird"
wrote:

Would you prefer to see all the waiters carrying machine guns, grenades,
RPGs Etc while they serve your dinner so that you feel safe while you eat
it, seriously though dont worry all the cruise liners carry an awsome
armoury of long range peashooters, spud guns and catapaults also, the crew
all hold a black belt in origami (if that's spelt right) so you have
nothing
to fear

Hi Richard,

There you go. You let the cat out of the bag! :+)

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Damn i forgot i was sworn to secrecy by the queen herself, Oh well i supose
i will be beheaded now for my indiscretion, silly me

In article ,
Ray Goldenberg wrote:

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:11 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot
net wrote:

I am not talking about that lame stuff.
When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel.
What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the
news.
That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken
off.
What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the
pirates.
I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion
dollar
investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device.
At some point you have to put rounds into bodies.
Small arms fire just can close the distance.
My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry.

Hi G&V,

As I stated earlier, the cruise lines have a number of ways to repel
pirates and protect their investment. They are not going to publish
this information on the Internet to satisfy your curiosity. The so
called "lame" defense did work. How do you argue with the facts in
the Seabourn attempt?


Adn assuming the security types on the Seabourn work like every
other security type I know, there are various grades of response from
try to outrun 'em to pull out the nukes. So we really can't say that the
lame maneuver is only thing in their arsenal, only the first.

On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:29:37 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

Adn assuming the security types on the Seabourn work like every
other security type I know, there are various grades of response from
try to outrun 'em to pull out the nukes. So we really can't say that the
lame maneuver is only thing in their arsenal, only the first.

Hi Kurt,

You are absolutely correct, sir.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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"Ray Goldenberg" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:11 -0500, "G&V" Bushwick at comcast dot
net wrote:

I am not talking about that lame stuff.
When you are being attacked with RPG's you need real weapons to repel.
What you are talking about is no secret, it was widely disseminated in the
news.
That lame acoustic thing is probably not the reason the attack was broken
off.
What was more likely the attack was broken off for other reasons by the
pirates.
I find it hard to believe that the cruise line would put their billion
dollar
investment on the line with ONLY such a lame device.
At some point you have to put rounds into bodies.
Small arms fire just can close the distance.
My question is what large caliber weapons does the ship carry.

Hi G&V,

As I stated earlier, the cruise lines have a number of ways to repel
pirates and protect their investment. They are not going to publish
this information on the Internet to satisfy your curiosity. The so
called "lame" defense did work. How do you argue with the facts in
the Seabourn attempt?

Best regards,
Ray

OK ray, since you're privy to inside info, how will they repel the Jack
Sparrows of the world?

"Ray Goldenberg"
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:29:37 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

Adn assuming the security types on the Seabourn work like every
other security type I know, there are various grades of response from
try to outrun 'em to pull out the nukes. So we really can't say that the
lame maneuver is only thing in their arsenal, only the first.

Hi Kurt,

You are absolutely correct, sir.

Best regards,
Ray

The 'rayettes' are always correct. That's how they got to be a 'rayette'

[Default] Thus spake Brian K :

Tobie,

Enquiring Minds would like to know, what happens to the pax when this
LRAD is fired? I wonder if they have ever researched the effects of
feeding Yoko Ono singing through one of these things? ;-)

Tried as war criminals???

I suspect the pax would already have been sent scurrying to their
rooms.

I've been on the deck of the New Jersey when they fired her 16 inch
guns. My breath was pounded out of me! I've also been aboard a ship
firing a CWIS. In some ways, that's even worse, because it lasts a
second or so. One of those would "discourage" pirates. Or at least
end a few careers. :-)



On 11/27/2008 12:41 PM Tobie Gerbrandt did a "happy dance", then made
these writings:
Last week, on the Oceania Regatta, our Cruise Director did mention the fact
that the Regatta has several of these LRAD devices on board, and that they
also have extra security people on board whenever they go through waters
that are known to have pirate activity. These special security people are
"incognito", in other words, they are travelling as ordinary passengers.

Some members of the crew are specially trained to operate the LRADs, and are
required to wear special earmuffs because, even behind the guns, the
results can be devastating.

Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

"Becca" wrote in message
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This article was posted on March 25, 2008.

http://maritimeaccident.wordpress.co...oes-lrad-work/

In theory, the LRAD sends out a concentrated beam of ear-popping sound
painful enough to burst eardrums and deter attackers. A popular version is
sold by American Technology Corporation.

So far, there has been only one reported successful use of this device,
when the cruise ship /Seabourn Spirit/ was attacked by pirates off the
coast of Somalia. However, a close reading of reports of the event must
necessarily raise the question of whether it was the spirited defence of
the ship by its security officer Michael Grave and his colleage Som
Bahadur Gurung, which included high pressure hose and aggressive maneuvers
by the master. Michael Graves suffered permanent hearing damage. Grave and
Gurung deservedly were awarded the Queens Gallantry Medal and Commendation
for Bravery.

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- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

[Default] Thus spake Kurt Ullman :

In article , Nonnymus
wrote:

Nonnymus wrote:
Becca wrote:

We have a skunk living under our house, so I wish I had the LRAD here
in Louisiana. It could get rid of the skunk, blast his kidney stones
and zapp his Peyronie's, if it's a boy. I have not got close enough
to look. ;-)

Becca

Becca, the best way to get rid of the skunk is to have George crawl
under the house, grab the skunk by the tail and toss it out to you. You
take a broom, whack him in the rear end several times and he'll run
away. That's the way we did it back in MO. Grin


Wow, after reading that I became worried that you might misinterpret it.
I was suggesting whacking the SKUNK, not George in the rear end
several times. Whacking George in the rear end several times with a
broom would probably only make him irritable.

Or open up new avenues of exploration for the relationship....

Oh lordy, I just went blind!!!
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- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.