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Linda wrote: Any way... this might be the exception. I don't think that really applies. If you become good friends with someone I think that is different. I thought we were talking about discussing it with strangers and the subject coming up in first conversations or general conversations. -- Charles |
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I know that "Malicious Michelle" never lies, but this one defies belief.
She would have me believe that she has me killfiled, but I need someone to remind her that her nose is growing. -- DG in Cherry Hill, NJ I never ask since I never expect to be told the truth. I am frequently asked and always tell the truth. I don't think it rude, naive perhaps, but price shopping for multi-thousand $$ items makes perfect sense to me. ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH, MICHELLE? HOW ABOUT POSTING UNDER YOUR OWN NAME. |
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"Ebbtide" wrote...
I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. I am also flabbergasted by passengers who ask total strangers what they paid for their cruise. Not only is it rude, it's none of their business. It's happened to us several times and we refuse to respond. One man who asked got nasty when we wouldn't tell him and then stated that when he filed his "class action lawsuit" for being overcharged, we would be left out for not cooperating with him. Sheesh. BTW, they tell a story here in Georgia about meeting locals from around the state... Atlantans will ask you what business you are in, Augustans will ask who your people are, and folks in Macon will inquire about your religious preference. Most visitors prefer to meet citizens of Savannah--they simply ask what you'd like to drink. Linda ----- CruiseDiva.com http://cruisediva.com |
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Linda Coffman wrote: Most visitors prefer to meet citizens of Savannah--they simply ask what you'd like to drink. Linda ----- CruiseDiva.com http://cruisediva.com That's why I'm planning the next company meeting in Savannah. ;-) If I'm going to be surrounded by 300 of my clients I want to make sure they are all in a very good mood. Joyce -- 346 days til my Amsterdam South America/Antarctica cruise (but who's counting/). -- "We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are." - The Talmud "People demand the freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid" - Kirkegarde "Software without support is hardware" - JR/1999 |
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Love it!
....and my answer is "whatever you're drinking " ...and I buy the next round -- if they take the bait and pay for the first. An observation from friends in NY was that the second question upon meeting someone in Manhattan, is inevitably "What do you do?" -- whereas in SF, I have social friends whom I've known for years -- and I have no idea what they do ...for a living (however what and who they do sexually -- is common knowlwdge) Mark "Linda Coffman" wrote in message ... "Ebbtide" wrote... I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. I am also flabbergasted by passengers who ask total strangers what they paid for their cruise. Not only is it rude, it's none of their business. It's happened to us several times and we refuse to respond. One man who asked got nasty when we wouldn't tell him and then stated that when he filed his "class action lawsuit" for being overcharged, we would be left out for not cooperating with him. Sheesh. BTW, they tell a story here in Georgia about meeting locals from around the state... Atlantans will ask you what business you are in, Augustans will ask who your people are, and folks in Macon will inquire about your religious preference. Most visitors prefer to meet citizens of Savannah--they simply ask what you'd like to drink. Linda ----- CruiseDiva.com http://cruisediva.com |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:33:46 GMT, "Tom & Linda" wrote: In theory I would agree with you about not discussing pricing. However, I'll offer a brief story that may demonstrate why it might not be a bad idea in certain situations. We were on the Norwegian Wind several years ago and were seated at the dinner table with a very nice family from the UK. We gradually became good friends during the cruise, and at one point did discuss how much each of us had paid. It turns out that cruise pricing (at least back then) was much higher in the UK than it was in the US. For future cruises, we gave them the name of our US travel agent. I'm not sure if they were every able to use our TA, but to save several thousand dollars vs. UK prices, I think it was worth trying. Any way... this might be the exception. --Tom Well, I must be the anomaly on this issue. On our last cruise in November '03, we happened to start chatting with a gentleman who was with a very large group tour sponsored by a radio station in San Francisco. He volunteeered that this was his first cruise in the Caribbean and they had gotten a good deal because of the size of the group, and he told me what it had cost (without my asking). Surprisingly, it was about the same as I had paid with our group of eight and I told him so, and we had a good laugh. The general tone of the conversation was how inexpensive cruising is compared to almost any other type of vacation no matter what you pay (except maybe biking across the country and staying at hostels). I think it is common for people who meet on a cruise to discuss price once they have become comfortable with each other. The one time I kept my mouth shut was on a two week tour of China, where the group became quite friendly and one night at the bar started talking about the price they had paid. They had all gone through travel agents, and I had made my own arrangements directly with the PRC government sponsored Travel Agency. I had paid about half of what most of them had paid. I didn't point out that fact, out of decorum, but gently suggested that the next time they bypass the travel agents, if they are willing to do the research on their own. Jim "Ebbtide" wrote in message . .. I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. LOL! Reminds me of the time in the 60's when I (a Yankee) attended graduate school in a southern state. There were four of us living in a converted garage attic. A nice genteel lady who lived next door started chatting with me and, out of the blue, asked me what my heritage was. I replied that my grandparents had emigrated to this country from Hungary. She replied "I thought you looked like you had some foreign blood in you"! I didn't ask her if she was descended from Native Americans or if she, too had "some foreign blood" in her! Jim |
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"ChiliJim" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:33:46 GMT, "Tom & Linda" wrote: In theory I would agree with you about not discussing pricing. However, I'll offer a brief story that may demonstrate why it might not be a bad idea in certain situations. We were on the Norwegian Wind several years ago and were seated at the dinner table with a very nice family from the UK. We gradually became good friends during the cruise, and at one point did discuss how much each of us had paid. It turns out that cruise pricing (at least back then) was much higher in the UK than it was in the US. For future cruises, we gave them the name of our US travel agent. I'm not sure if they were every able to use our TA, but to save several thousand dollars vs. UK prices, I think it was worth trying. Any way... this might be the exception. --Tom Well, I must be the anomaly on this issue. On our last cruise in November '03, we happened to start chatting with a gentleman who was with a very large group tour sponsored by a radio station in San Francisco. He volunteeered that this was his first cruise in the Caribbean and they had gotten a good deal because of the size of the group, and he told me what it had cost (without my asking). Surprisingly, it was about the same as I had paid with our group of eight and I told him so, and we had a good laugh. The general tone of the conversation was how inexpensive cruising is compared to almost any other type of vacation no matter what you pay (except maybe biking across the country and staying at hostels). I think it is common for people who meet on a cruise to discuss price once they have become comfortable with each other. The one time I kept my mouth shut was on a two week tour of China, where the group became quite friendly and one night at the bar started talking about the price they had paid. They had all gone through travel agents, and I had made my own arrangements directly with the PRC government sponsored Travel Agency. I had paid about half of what most of them had paid. I didn't point out that fact, out of decorum, but gently suggested that the next time they bypass the travel agents, if they are willing to do the research on their own. Jim "Ebbtide" wrote in message . .. I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. LOL! Reminds me of the time in the 60's when I (a Yankee) attended graduate school in a southern state. There were four of us living in a converted garage attic. A nice genteel lady who lived next door started chatting with me and, out of the blue, asked me what my heritage was. I replied that my grandparents had emigrated to this country from Hungary. She replied "I thought you looked like you had some foreign blood in you"! I didn't ask her if she was descended from Native Americans or if she, too had "some foreign blood" in her! Jim You DID have foreign blood to her, you were a Yankee!! You know her in the south they call us transplants Yankees right to our face!! I love their manners!! Oh yea, that's after asking our religion!! |
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I believe there's two sides to this Yankee vs. Southerner issue and I have
seen both of them -- both pro and con. On the one hand you are more likely to be asked a personal question by someone in the South than you are from a Northerner, but on the other hand the people in the South are more likely to be friendly and helpful to you. I'm from CT and have lived in TX for more than 20 years. When I first came down to TX in 1983, I used to hear "Yankee" jokes all the time in public places and over the radio. At that time a lot of people had recently moved down from the North. Unemployment was high in Ohio, Michigan and other old industrial states so they moved to Texas, and, according to the original residents here, were taking their jobs. The Yankee jokes were similar to the ethnic jokes I had heard back in CT -- just replace the word Yankee for whatever ethnic group the joke was about. I can also remember seeing a sign in the office that said..."I don't care how you did it up North." There was an obvious dislike of Northerners. Having said that, I don't see that attitude any more, and haven't for several years. Now that I have lived here for many years, I find the typical Southerner to be more friendly and willing to help than your typical Northerner. This was brought home to me a few years ago when I had to go back to CT on business. We went up in March on a cold, wintry day. The roads were covered in slushy snow and there wasn't a friendly face to be seen anywhere. We had a rental car while we were up there, and it had a problem of some sort. The people I met that day weren't only standoffish they were down right unfriendly and nobody was interested in helping us with our problem. On the other hand I have travelled through the South by car many times and have had several instances where I stopped on the side of the road and people pulled up on the other side of the divided highway just to see if they could help. Because of their friendliness, it could be that persons from the South are willing to ask more questions of a personal nature than you might expect to see up North. Down here, that's just their nature and they don't mean anything offensive about it. I have to admit, however, that I was somewhat offended when I was in the process of moving into our house for the first time and the neighbor across the street ran over to introduce herself and to ask me what I paid for it. My wife, being a real foreigner from Germany, has seen both sides and agrees with me. She also indicates that Europeans are much more private and are not likely to be receptive to the type of the personal questions that she has been asked by people she has met in TX. Its pretty amazing to me that we have these regional differences in attitudes in America and only live a few hundred miles apart. Robert "Ebbtide" wrote in message ... "ChiliJim" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:33:46 GMT, "Tom & Linda" wrote: In theory I would agree with you about not discussing pricing. However, I'll offer a brief story that may demonstrate why it might not be a bad idea in certain situations. We were on the Norwegian Wind several years ago and were seated at the dinner table with a very nice family from the UK. We gradually became good friends during the cruise, and at one point did discuss how much each of us had paid. It turns out that cruise pricing (at least back then) was much higher in the UK than it was in the US. For future cruises, we gave them the name of our US travel agent. I'm not sure if they were every able to use our TA, but to save several thousand dollars vs. UK prices, I think it was worth trying. Any way... this might be the exception. --Tom Well, I must be the anomaly on this issue. On our last cruise in November '03, we happened to start chatting with a gentleman who was with a very large group tour sponsored by a radio station in San Francisco. He volunteeered that this was his first cruise in the Caribbean and they had gotten a good deal because of the size of the group, and he told me what it had cost (without my asking). Surprisingly, it was about the same as I had paid with our group of eight and I told him so, and we had a good laugh. The general tone of the conversation was how inexpensive cruising is compared to almost any other type of vacation no matter what you pay (except maybe biking across the country and staying at hostels). I think it is common for people who meet on a cruise to discuss price once they have become comfortable with each other. The one time I kept my mouth shut was on a two week tour of China, where the group became quite friendly and one night at the bar started talking about the price they had paid. They had all gone through travel agents, and I had made my own arrangements directly with the PRC government sponsored Travel Agency. I had paid about half of what most of them had paid. I didn't point out that fact, out of decorum, but gently suggested that the next time they bypass the travel agents, if they are willing to do the research on their own. Jim "Ebbtide" wrote in message . .. I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. LOL! Reminds me of the time in the 60's when I (a Yankee) attended graduate school in a southern state. There were four of us living in a converted garage attic. A nice genteel lady who lived next door started chatting with me and, out of the blue, asked me what my heritage was. I replied that my grandparents had emigrated to this country from Hungary. She replied "I thought you looked like you had some foreign blood in you"! I didn't ask her if she was descended from Native Americans or if she, too had "some foreign blood" in her! Jim You DID have foreign blood to her, you were a Yankee!! You know her in the south they call us transplants Yankees right to our face!! I love their manners!! Oh yea, that's after asking our religion!! |
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Great observation and I have to agree with you they are very friendly in the
south. Why, in the supermarket they do all the bagging and deliver the groceries to the car, no tipping allowed. When my children from the NJ area come to visit us in FL they are amazed at the courtesy. True, there are two sides to the coin. "Robert Strauss" wrote in message ... I believe there's two sides to this Yankee vs. Southerner issue and I have seen both of them -- both pro and con. On the one hand you are more likely to be asked a personal question by someone in the South than you are from a Northerner, but on the other hand the people in the South are more likely to be friendly and helpful to you. I'm from CT and have lived in TX for more than 20 years. When I first came down to TX in 1983, I used to hear "Yankee" jokes all the time in public places and over the radio. At that time a lot of people had recently moved down from the North. Unemployment was high in Ohio, Michigan and other old industrial states so they moved to Texas, and, according to the original residents here, were taking their jobs. The Yankee jokes were similar to the ethnic jokes I had heard back in CT -- just replace the word Yankee for whatever ethnic group the joke was about. I can also remember seeing a sign in the office that said..."I don't care how you did it up North." There was an obvious dislike of Northerners. Having said that, I don't see that attitude any more, and haven't for several years. Now that I have lived here for many years, I find the typical Southerner to be more friendly and willing to help than your typical Northerner. This was brought home to me a few years ago when I had to go back to CT on business. We went up in March on a cold, wintry day. The roads were covered in slushy snow and there wasn't a friendly face to be seen anywhere. We had a rental car while we were up there, and it had a problem of some sort. The people I met that day weren't only standoffish they were down right unfriendly and nobody was interested in helping us with our problem. On the other hand I have travelled through the South by car many times and have had several instances where I stopped on the side of the road and people pulled up on the other side of the divided highway just to see if they could help. Because of their friendliness, it could be that persons from the South are willing to ask more questions of a personal nature than you might expect to see up North. Down here, that's just their nature and they don't mean anything offensive about it. I have to admit, however, that I was somewhat offended when I was in the process of moving into our house for the first time and the neighbor across the street ran over to introduce herself and to ask me what I paid for it. My wife, being a real foreigner from Germany, has seen both sides and agrees with me. She also indicates that Europeans are much more private and are not likely to be receptive to the type of the personal questions that she has been asked by people she has met in TX. Its pretty amazing to me that we have these regional differences in attitudes in America and only live a few hundred miles apart. Robert "Ebbtide" wrote in message ... "ChiliJim" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:33:46 GMT, "Tom & Linda" wrote: In theory I would agree with you about not discussing pricing. However, I'll offer a brief story that may demonstrate why it might not be a bad idea in certain situations. We were on the Norwegian Wind several years ago and were seated at the dinner table with a very nice family from the UK. We gradually became good friends during the cruise, and at one point did discuss how much each of us had paid. It turns out that cruise pricing (at least back then) was much higher in the UK than it was in the US. For future cruises, we gave them the name of our US travel agent. I'm not sure if they were every able to use our TA, but to save several thousand dollars vs. UK prices, I think it was worth trying. Any way... this might be the exception. --Tom Well, I must be the anomaly on this issue. On our last cruise in November '03, we happened to start chatting with a gentleman who was with a very large group tour sponsored by a radio station in San Francisco. He volunteeered that this was his first cruise in the Caribbean and they had gotten a good deal because of the size of the group, and he told me what it had cost (without my asking). Surprisingly, it was about the same as I had paid with our group of eight and I told him so, and we had a good laugh. The general tone of the conversation was how inexpensive cruising is compared to almost any other type of vacation no matter what you pay (except maybe biking across the country and staying at hostels). I think it is common for people who meet on a cruise to discuss price once they have become comfortable with each other. The one time I kept my mouth shut was on a two week tour of China, where the group became quite friendly and one night at the bar started talking about the price they had paid. They had all gone through travel agents, and I had made my own arrangements directly with the PRC government sponsored Travel Agency. I had paid about half of what most of them had paid. I didn't point out that fact, out of decorum, but gently suggested that the next time they bypass the travel agents, if they are willing to do the research on their own. Jim "Ebbtide" wrote in message . .. I also think it is rude asking another what they paid for their cruise. It's like asking how much you paid for anything personal, - car, clothing, house. However I live in the south (transplant many years ago) and it never ceases to amaze me, one of the first questions I am asked is my religion!!! Coming from the Mid Atlantic States I equate that with asking my salary. I REFUSE to answer these rude people. LOL! Reminds me of the time in the 60's when I (a Yankee) attended graduate school in a southern state. There were four of us living in a converted garage attic. A nice genteel lady who lived next door started chatting with me and, out of the blue, asked me what my heritage was. I replied that my grandparents had emigrated to this country from Hungary. She replied "I thought you looked like you had some foreign blood in you"! I didn't ask her if she was descended from Native Americans or if she, too had "some foreign blood" in her! Jim You DID have foreign blood to her, you were a Yankee!! You know her in the south they call us transplants Yankees right to our face!! I love their manners!! Oh yea, that's after asking our religion!! |
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