Why are foreigners who have never set foot in the US obsessed with how much and how we spend and how we spend our bucks on our excellent health care?

Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

"Your choice may be whether
to take your own employer's health plan or get something else."

Bpm

From a socialist/ communist in the UK (and I repeat myself):

Or to vote for universal health care

John Rennie

And part of another rant from one of Rennie's regular needed brain
donors in between his electric shock treatments in a nut house all the
way from Brisbane Australia:

OW, people make their own decisions, unlike in the
US, where there is no choice other than which HMO you choose to get
screwed by. Must make ya proud to be a Merkin,...

Fred D Bloggs

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.

because it is less than you for better outcomes

Next

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

"Your choice may be whether
to take your own employer's health plan or get something else."

Bpm

From a socialist/ communist in the UK (and I repeat myself):

Or to vote for universal health care

John Rennie

And part of another rant from one of Rennie's regular needed brain
donors in between his electric shock treatments in a nut house all the
way from Brisbane Australia:

OW, people make their own decisions, unlike in the
US, where there is no choice other than which HMO you choose to get
screwed by. Must make ya proud to be a Merkin,...

Fred D Bloggs


Yes America cannot afford medicare when you have expenses like errr what do
they call it again???

Carole - American propaganda
http://www.conspiracee.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
You want to see what Jewish tax you are paying.
400 Jewish organizations. Cake mix. ADL just a few bucks. 150 billion of
food products. Oh and now worldwide under US patronage , not of course that
Jews are large parasitic lumps on America. IE 2% of the population sucking
of billions for their church and rabbis. Not to mention various other of
their religious and private organizations.
ADL that dear little organization who's label as the Anti Defamation League
would be as false as the Democratic Republic label of North Koreas.
Now why would a Jewish semi religious organization protect the sucking of
billions of dollars from Americans and all America's friends and scream anti
Semitism to protect that hidden illicit income when no other organization ,
religion has used such subterfuge to live of it's fellow citizens.
And one can only hope that that is either stopped or decreased so that the
rest of the world is not forced to support religions with practices like
that. And with the newly prominent religion of Mohomadeism with it's special
religious dietary requirements used to rob the rest of the country.

From: tyler
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt.
Ketchup also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more
hygienic or
more effectiveI Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA 10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws? How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist? Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5 on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler



Full article
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/P...underwor.shtml
"Don Ocean" wrote in message
...
Ø
Any state or country that uses the United states to raise money for
their wars and terrorism should be promptly removed from our welcome
list and all trade instantly ceased. Also all aid should be ceased.
That includes any in the middle east and other entities such
as the IRA. It is extremely irritating that Israel uses our shores for
their dirty work.. Folks... you do remember why the WTC was destroyed?
Israel should be bar from any entering America and any leaving these
shores for that rathole. And if the psuedo-Christians can't live with
out a trip there.. ****-em. The Jews have no problem with murdering
Christians, as is well proven by their bombing the Christian enclave in
Beirut.. Don't forget the Mossad with purpose did not warn us that the
people they had ****ed off were going to attack and destroy the WTC..
And the Jew Leasor made $billions on that massacre on US soil.

"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
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Ø Council Orthodox Rabbis=KOSHER TAX on Consumers!! Kosher Tax Video -
Repost

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo

From: tyler
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID:

Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1) US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2) Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/0...News.1181.html

3) Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/0...News.1181.html

4) Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/0...News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler

Probably because you keep cross posting our crap to multiple ngs and they
keep pointing out the stupidity of your points.

Hey the US health system sucks, expensive and crappy with poor outcomes. Do
you really have to go to the hospital that the HMO says see the Dr the HMO
says and receive the treatment the HMOs says in the US if you want "free"
treatment?

PJ O'Donovan writes:

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

Many people outside the U.S. are intimidated by it or envy it and enjoy
finding opportunities to find fault with the country, in order to rationalize
their own inability to live there. Sad but true.

Your heading shows the stupidity of your attitude. The newsgroup is not
owned by the US, so your concept of a foreigner is wrong.

I've set foot in the US, as have no doubt many others who express opinions
on the US health system. It is crap compared with that of civilised
countries.

David Bennetts
Australia

On Aug 9, 4:54 pm, PJ O'Donovan wrote:
Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.


We must now slander them.



Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

"Your choice may be whether
to take your own employer's health plan or get something else."

Bpm

From a socialist/ communist in the UK (and I repeat myself):

Or to vote for universal health care

John Rennie

And part of another rant from one of Rennie's regular needed brain
donors in between his electric shock treatments in a nut house all the
way from Brisbane Australia:

OW, people make their own decisions, unlike in the
US, where there is no choice other than which HMO you choose to get
screwed by. Must make ya proud to be a Merkin,...

Fred D Bloggs

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

On the other hand, it is very common for us Americans to believe that the
world would be a much better place if all those foreigners were just like us
and really we know that inside each one there's a little American just
kicking to get out and mow his lawn on Saturday, roast hamburgers on the
grill and drink Budweiser, if only his repressive culture would allow it.

Bringing it back on the topic of travel. I think it's tough for Europeans to
gather why they need to purchase a special health insurance policy when they
come to the US. They just are not used to the concept of having to protect
themselves from the sort of expenses we see. I recently had outpatient
surgery and the gross hospital bill (not including the surgeon or
anesthesiologist) was US$22K. Of this I had to pay about US$700, which I
still thought was high, but imagine what a European would think. My wife
visited the ER in Italy and the bill was about US$36. The same visit in the
US would be a thousand.

--
Donald R. Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net

Make credence recognised that on Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:39:30 +0200,
Mxsmanic has scripted:

PJ O'Donovan writes:

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

Many people outside the U.S. are intimidated by it or envy it and enjoy
finding opportunities to find fault with the country, in order to rationalize
their own inability to live there. Sad but true.

How many?
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Make credence recognised that on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:03:48 -0500,
"Donald Newcomb" has scripted:

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
oups.com...
Most of us don't much give a **** how much they spend or how they
spend on health care.

Why are they obsessed that we should ape there failed health systems
here?

On the other hand, it is very common for us Americans to believe that the
world would be a much better place if all those foreigners were just like us
and really we know that inside each one there's a little American just
kicking to get out and mow his lawn on Saturday, roast hamburgers on the
grill and drink Budweiser, if only his repressive culture would allow it.

Bringing it back on the topic of travel. I think it's tough for Europeans to
gather why they need to purchase a special health insurance policy when they
come to the US. They just are not used to the concept of having to protect
themselves from the sort of expenses we see. I recently had outpatient
surgery and the gross hospital bill (not including the surgeon or
anesthesiologist) was US$22K. Of this I had to pay about US$700, which I
still thought was high, but imagine what a European would think. My wife
visited the ER in Italy and the bill was about US$36. The same visit in the
US would be a thousand.

I wonder just what proportion of all that money goes to administration
and profits.
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