"Mr Gorbachev: Tear Down This Wall!"- Called a defining moment in thehistory of the Cold War

On Oct 4, 8:27 am, Mitchell Holeman unwisely
posted to Usenet:
Bill Bonde wrote -
privat.org:

....? Yer weird, Holman.

Reagan standing up to the Soviets. Gads......


Tear down this wall!
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U.S. President Ronald Reagan speaking in front of the Brandenburg Gate
at the Berlin Wall.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4Holeman276a10

"Tear down this wall!" was the challenge from United States President
Ronald Reagan to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy the Berlin
Wall.

In a speech at the Brandenburg Gate commemorating the 750th
anniversary of Berlin,[1][2] by the Berlin Wall on June 12, 1987,
Reagan challenged Gorbachev, then the General Secretary of the
Communist Party of the Soviet Union, to tear it down as a symbol of
Reagan's desire for increasing freedom in the Eastern Bloc....

.....Response and legacy

A large piece of the Berlin Wall located at the Ronald Reagan
Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4Holeman276b10

At the time, the speech received "relatively little coverage from the
media."[11] Communists were also unimpressed by the speech,[1] and the
Soviet press agency Tass accused Reagan as giving an "openly
provocative, war-mongering speech."[2]

Twenty-nine months later, on 9 November 1989, after intense East
German protest, East Germany finally opened the Berlin Wall. By the
end of the year, official operations to dismantle the wall began. With
the collapse of the Communist governments of Eastern Europe and,
eventually, the Soviet Union itself, the tearing down of the wall
epitomized the collapse for history. In September 1990, Reagan, no
longer President, returned to Berlin, where he personally took a few
symbolic hammer swings at a remnant of the Berlin Wall.[12]

Former West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl said he would never forget
standing near Reagan when he challenged Gorbachev to tear down the
Berlin Wall. "He was a stroke of luck for the world, especially for
Europe."[13] Although there is some disagreement over how much
influence, if any, Reagan's words had on the destruction of the wall,
the speech is remembered as an important moment in Cold War history.
[7]......"

On Oct 4, 8:01*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
On Oct 4, 8:27 am, Mitchell Holeman unwisely
posted to Usenet:

Bill Bonde wrote -
privat.org:
....? Yer weird, Holman.

* * *Reagan standing up to the Soviets. Gads......

Tear down this wall!
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U.S. President Ronald Reagan speaking in front of the Brandenburg Gate
at the Berlin Wall.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4Holeman276a10

"Tear down this wall!" was the challenge from United States President
Ronald Reagan to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy the Berlin
Wall.

In a speech at the Brandenburg Gate commemorating the 750th
anniversary of Berlin,[1][2] by the Berlin Wall on June 12, 1987,
Reagan challenged Gorbachev, then the General Secretary of the
Communist Party of the Soviet Union, to tear it down as a symbol of
Reagan's desire for increasing freedom in the Eastern Bloc....

....Response and legacy

A large piece of the Berlin Wall located at the Ronald Reagan
Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4Holeman276b10

At the time, the speech received "relatively little coverage from the
media."[11] Communists were also unimpressed by the speech,[1] and the
Soviet press agency Tass accused Reagan as giving an "openly
provocative, war-mongering speech."[2]

Twenty-nine months later, on 9 November 1989, after intense East
German protest, East Germany finally opened the Berlin Wall. By the
end of the year, official operations to dismantle the wall began. With
the collapse of the Communist governments of Eastern Europe and,
eventually, the Soviet Union itself, the tearing down of the wall
epitomized the collapse for history. In September 1990, Reagan, no
longer President, returned to Berlin, where he personally took a few
symbolic hammer swings at a remnant of the Berlin Wall.[12]

Former West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl said he would never forget
standing near Reagan when he challenged Gorbachev to tear down the
Berlin Wall. "He was a stroke of luck for the world, especially for
Europe."[13] Although there is some disagreement over how much
influence, if any, Reagan's words had on the destruction of the wall,
the speech is remembered as an important moment in Cold War history.
[7]......"

How grandiose to even think the USA had anything to do with it. East
Germany collapsed on it's own, the locals were tired of living at the
bottom of the food chain and Moscow knew that it could not hold them
back any more. Just as the entire Russian territories had to be let
go, because Russia was flat ass broke "due to it failed war in
Afghanistan". No charismatic capitalists swayed them.
Meanwhile the idiot Americans are building their own wall between
themselves and Mexico. (too stupid to know that walls are even fun to
tear down, so throw your money away, some day maybe you can sell
chunks of the Mexican wall on EBay.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
On Oct 4, 8:27 am, Mitchell Holeman unwisely
posted to Usenet:
Bill Bonde wrote -
privat.org:

....? Yer weird, Holman.

Reagan standing up to the Soviets. Gads......


Tear down this wall!


and the wall came tumbling down, as if
the drooling, retarded,incoherent,diseased brained
imbecile were an Alzheimer's affected actor playing Moses

LMAO

the Russians couldn't afford to keep the east Germans in anymore,
considering
the fact they were getting their asses whipped in Afghanistan just like we
are
and that's only one of many reasons the wall came down non related to that
dick sucking
ray gun bitch

Ishvara wrote:
GLOBALIST wrote:
How grandiose to even think the USA had anything to do with it. East
Germany collapsed on it's own, the locals were tired of living at the
bottom of the food chain and Moscow knew that it could not hold them
back any more. Just as the entire Russian territories had to be let
go, because Russia was flat ass broke "due to it failed war in
Afghanistan". No charismatic capitalists swayed them.
Meanwhile the idiot Americans are building their own wall between
themselves and Mexico. (too stupid to know that walls are even fun
to tear down, so throw your money away, some day maybe you can sell
chunks of the Mexican wall on EBay.

What do you expect from a nation most of whose people still believe
than that they "won" WW2, even though they don't know where Europe is?

Of course they know where Europe is, it's on the East side of the Hudson
somewhere. Next to India.

GLOBALIST wrote:
On Oct 4, 8:01 am, "O'Donovan, PJ,
wrote:

influence, if any, Reagan's words had on the destruction of the wall,
the speech is remembered as an important moment in Cold War history.
[7]......"

How grandiose to even think the USA had anything to do with it.

The other superpower had nothing to do with it? The US challenged the
Soviets since the Cold War began. The US had everything to do with it.



East
Germany collapsed on it's own,

"its own"

GlennR wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, wrote in message
...
On Oct 4, 8:27 am, Mitchell unwisely
posted to Usenet:
Bill wrote -
privat.org:

....? Yer weird, Holman.

Reagan standing up to the Soviets. Gads......


Tear down this wall!


and the wall came tumbling down, as if
the drooling, retarded,incoherent,diseased brained
imbecile were an Alzheimer's affected actor playing Moses

LMAO

the Russians couldn't afford to keep the east Germans in anymore,
considering
the fact they were getting their asses whipped in Afghanistan just like we
are

They were winning in Afghanistan until Reagan started supplying arms to
those fighting the Soviets. But you can't give Reagan credit for anything.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 06:15:26 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, GLOBALIST
, wrote

How grandiose to even think the USA had anything to do with it.

I knew this was the type response that would be here before I even opened
the post......

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:23:24 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, Bill Bonde
, wrote

GLOBALIST wrote:
On Oct 4, 8:01 am, "O'Donovan, PJ,
wrote:

influence, if any, Reagan's words had on the destruction of the wall,
the speech is remembered as an important moment in Cold War history.
[7]......"

How grandiose to even think the USA had anything to do with it.

The other superpower had nothing to do with it? The US challenged the
Soviets since the Cold War began. The US had everything to do with it.



East
Germany collapsed on it's own,

"its own"


Bill, sometimes I wonder why you even bother to spar with these
hate-filled socialists.

On Oct 5, 1:29 am, Earl Evleth stupid as usual
posted to usene in partt:

... Reagan and his henchmen were able to sell supply side
economic policy to the American people, who, in typical fashion were easily
duped.


"Champions of free enterprise are hailing the decision of the Nobel
Committee to award this year's prize in economics to Robert A.
Mundell, a Columbia University professor and father of Reagan-era
supply-side economics........

In a profession long dominated by the theories advanced by John
Maynard Keynes, Mundell's ideas were considered radical when they were
first advanced in the 1960s and 1970s.

But they have become nearly mainstream among economists as supply-
side economics has been vindicated by the skyrocketing growth of the
1980s and 1990s.
..
When the Reagan tax cuts became fully effective in 1983, the U.S.
economy began its long march forward and, experts point out, has never
looked back except for a nine-month recession associated with the
savings and loan crisis.

In its lead editorial this morning, the Wall Street Journal comments:
"In terms of actual policy initiatives, Robert Mundell has been the
most influential economist since John Maynard Keynes."

Source: Michael M. Phillips, "Mundell Wins Nobel Prize in Economics,
Oct 14,1999

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
On Oct 5, 1:29 am, Earl Evleth stupid as usual
posted to usene in partt:

... Reagan and his henchmen were able to sell supply side
economic policy to the American people, who, in typical fashion were
easily
duped.


"Champions of free enterprise are hailing the decision of the Nobel
Committee to award this year's prize in economics to Robert A.
Mundell, a Columbia University professor and father of Reagan-era
supply-side economics........

In a profession long dominated by the theories advanced by John
Maynard Keynes, Mundell's ideas were considered radical when they were
first advanced in the 1960s and 1970s.

But they have become nearly mainstream among economists as supply-
side economics has been vindicated by the skyrocketing growth of the
1980s and 1990s.
.
When the Reagan tax cuts became fully effective in 1983, the U.S.
economy began its long march forward and, experts point out, has never
looked back except for a nine-month recession associated with the
savings and loan crisis.

In its lead editorial this morning, the Wall Street Journal comments:
"In terms of actual policy initiatives, Robert Mundell has been the
most influential economist since John Maynard Keynes."

Source: Michael M. Phillips, "Mundell Wins Nobel Prize in Economics,
Oct 14,1999


# I suggest you view DVD of Michael Moore's latest - about Capitalism, and
how Reaganomics eliminated the burgeoning prosperous Middle Class.