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Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue
Here is a detailed report of our trip to northern Germany, Denmark and
the Netherlands in June this year (by car + plane from Munich): http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Germany/2014/ (Germany) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Denmark/2014/ (Denmark) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Netherlands/2014/ (Netherlands) -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue
On 13 Sep 2014 in rec.travel.europe, Alfred Molon wrote:
Here is a detailed report of our trip to northern Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands in June this year (by car + plane from Munich): http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Germany/2014/ (Germany) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Denmark/2014/ (Denmark) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Netherlands/2014/ (Netherlands) I agree that Denmark is expensive. We had the good fortune to have a guide - our daughter was studying at DTU at the time. We stayed in Ballerup (Zleephotel - spartan but (relatively) inexpensive), drove to Lyngby and took the bus into Copenhagen from there. -- Joe Makowiec http://makowiec.org/ Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue
"Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Here is a detailed report of our trip to northern Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands in June this year (by car + plane from Munich): http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Germany/2014/ (Germany) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Denmark/2014/ (Denmark) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Netherlands/2014/ (Netherlands) What a strange route to include Amsterdam in a trip to Germany/Denmark/Sweden Of course people arrive early for a twice a day ferry.. Many of them will have come from 100s of kms away and will have left a lot of slack in their drive so that they don't miss it. Even so, if you come from a short distance away and can time your arrival for the last minute, many occasional ferries have a minimum check in of 1 hour - arriving only 20 minutes before it leaves is just asking to be left on the quay-side (though I can't find Stena's rules about this) Would have been interesting to know how long you queued for the Fehmarnbelt ferry. |
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In article , tim..... says...
What a strange route to include Amsterdam in a trip to Germany/Denmark/Sweden Because I had to be in Amsterdam on these dates, to attend a conference. Of course people arrive early for a twice a day ferry.. Many of them will have come from 100s of kms away and will have left a lot of slack in their drive so that they don't miss it. Even so, if you come from a short distance away and can time your arrival for the last minute, many occasional ferries have a minimum check in of 1 hour - arriving only 20 minutes before it leaves is just asking to be left on the quay-side (though I can't find Stena's rules about this) Would have been interesting to know how long you queued for the Fehmarnbelt ferry. You misunderstood that. We chose a late ferry (8:15pm), to have the whole day available for sightseeing. Then we were done with Lübeck earlier than expected and the weather was not that good, so we drove to Puttgarden early, arriving at 6pm. We drove a bit around the area, but didn't find anything terribly interesting and it was raining anyway. So we didn't do anything special until we got on the ferry. At 7:20pm we drove to the ferry terminal, expecting to wait a while for the 8:15pm ferry, but were lucky to be put on the 7:45pm ferry, thereby shortening the waiting time by half an hour. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:02:12 AM UTC+1, Alfred Molon wrote:
Here is a detailed report of our trip to northern Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands in June this year (by car + plane from Munich): http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Germany/2014/ (Germany) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Denmark/2014/ (Denmark) http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Netherlands/2014/ (Netherlands) -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats! |
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Surreyman says... You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats! My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue
On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , Surreyman says... You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats! My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food. without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam. -- Martin in Zuid Holland As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless! However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag. |
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On Friday, October 3, 2014 11:17:08 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , Surreyman says... You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats! My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food. without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam. As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless! Curry in UK is hardly sold at the prices charged for Indonesian food in Amsterdam. However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag. There are no proper Indonesian restaurants in Leiden. The food of the one that is rated as the best is cooked in The Hague and is reheated in Leiden. The resulting quality is poor. I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff. -- Martin in Zuid Holland Authenticity apart, I have to say I've often eaten Indonesian in the Netherlands at approximately UK curry prices - maybe not in central A'dam recently, but then I don't tend to eat curry in Regent Street either. |
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On Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:10:30 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 00:27:49 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Friday, October 3, 2014 11:17:08 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman wrote: On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , Surreyman says... You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats! My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food. without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam. As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless! Curry in UK is hardly sold at the prices charged for Indonesian food in Amsterdam. However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag. There are no proper Indonesian restaurants in Leiden. The food of the one that is rated as the best is cooked in The Hague and is reheated in Leiden. The resulting quality is poor. I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff. Authenticity apart, I have to say I've often eaten Indonesian in the Netherlands at approximately UK curry prices - maybe not in central A'dam recently, but then I don't tend to eat curry in Regent Street either. There's no restaurants in the Leiden area selling Asian food for the price of a good curry in the North of England. You are lucky if you can buy a starter in NL for the same price. How much are you paying for the Indonesian meals you buy in NL? -- Martin in Zuid Holland Last occasion was about 18 months ago in De Lier, near den Haag. It was a perfectly ordinary (but reasonably smart) 'pseudo' Indonesian when I hosted some 20 people for a very fulfilling 'banquet' (not a rijstafel). It came to around 16 euro per head (the drinks bill was the same again!). A curry with side dishes would be at least that, probably more, in our Surrey village. |
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Martin wrote: I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff. So no restaurants run by Indonesian immigrants? |
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