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Old June 6th, 2008, 05:47 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Bill C
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom.

I wonder if they'll be more to follow?

Bill
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Old June 7th, 2008, 06:43 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Richard Whitlock
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in
Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the
"Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a
bond issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal.

Tucker in Texas

Bill C wrote:
Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom.

I wonder if they'll be more to follow?

Bill

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Old June 8th, 2008, 07:50 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Harry Jones
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the
Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines
are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand
there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes
me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans.



"Richard Whitlock" wrote in message
. ..
I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in
Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the
"Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond
issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal.

Tucker in Texas

Bill C wrote:
Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom.

I wonder if they'll be more to follow?

Bill



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Old June 8th, 2008, 09:03 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Bill C
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

Harry Jones wrote:
That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the
Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines
are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand
there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes
me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans.



"Richard Whitlock" wrote in message
. ..
I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in
Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the
"Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond
issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal.

Tucker in Texas

Bill C wrote:
Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom.

I wonder if they'll be more to follow?

Bill



just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill


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Old June 9th, 2008, 12:47 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:50:38 -0400, "Harry Jones"
wrote:

That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the
Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines
are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand
there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes
me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans.


Hi Harry,

Please see my posting from June 7th where I explain why the cruise
lines are making the adjustments. It is in the thread "Carnival
Freedom from Ft. Lauderdale!".

Best regards,
Ray
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Old June 11th, 2008, 01:35 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Dillon Pyron[_2_]
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

[Default] Thus spake Bill C :

Harry Jones wrote:
That is very interesting because there have been recent articles in the
Washington Post and US News about how the American cruise lines
are switching ships to Europe to cater to the increasing demand
there. One of the ships mentioned was the Freedom, so it makes
me curious as to why there is this reversal in plans.



"Richard Whitlock" wrote in message
. ..
I sure hope so because maybe we'll get some year around cruises back in
Texas. All we have now is the Conquest down on the Island. We have the
"Taj Mahal on the (Houston) Ship Channel" aka "The boondoggle to get a bond
issue passed for more container ports" to offer as a terminal.

Tucker in Texas

Bill C wrote:
Just read that Carnival has canceled the scheduled cruises for 2009 in
Europe on the Freedom.

I wonder if they'll be more to follow?

Bill



just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill


Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the
dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the
dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is
priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other
two.

And US cruise lines don't seem to be attractive to European clients.
Disney was spectacularly successful last year with Europeans, but
that's mostly because they're Disney.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 02:52 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Bill[_1_]
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

Dillon Pyron wrote:

Bill C wrote:

just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill


Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the
dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the
dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is
priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other
two.


I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare
to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill
stated.

Bill
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Old June 11th, 2008, 03:04 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Tom K
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled


"Bill" wrote in message
...
Dillon Pyron wrote:

Bill C wrote:

just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill


Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the
dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the
dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is
priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other
two.


I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare
to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill
stated.

Bill


Or it may be something more simple. Perhaps the Carnival clientele is not
that interested in Europe. Maybe Carnival misjudged the interest. A few
years ago Carnival seemed all excited about getting access to Bermuda... but
they seemed to have abandoned Bermuda without as much as a whimper.

I don't see Celebrity, Princess, Cunard, Costa, Regent, Silversea or HAL
pulling ships back from Europe.

We just got one way air from NYC to London through Cunard for $500. That
doesn't seem too bad.

--Tom


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Old June 11th, 2008, 04:24 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Bill C
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

Tom K wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
...
Dillon Pyron wrote:
Bill C wrote:

just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill
Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the
dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the
dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is
priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other
two.

I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare
to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill
stated.

Bill


Or it may be something more simple. Perhaps the Carnival clientele is not
that interested in Europe. Maybe Carnival misjudged the interest. A few
years ago Carnival seemed all excited about getting access to Bermuda... but
they seemed to have abandoned Bermuda without as much as a whimper.

I don't see Celebrity, Princess, Cunard, Costa, Regent, Silversea or HAL
pulling ships back from Europe.

We just got one way air from NYC to London through Cunard for $500. That
doesn't seem too bad.

--Tom


You may have something there. Carnivores are not sophisticated enough to
appreciate what
Europe has to offer.

Bill

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Old June 12th, 2008, 11:28 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Dillon Pyron[_2_]
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Default Carnival Freedom Europe 2009 canceled

[Default] Thus spake Bill :

Dillon Pyron wrote:

Bill C wrote:

just did a check on kayak.com for airfare and airfare to Rome is $1200
pp from Philadelphia. I think this must have had quite a bit to do with
the decision.

Bill


Last year, Med cruising was appealing to US travelers because the
dollar sucked and cruises were priced in dollars. This year, the
dollar still sucks, cruises are still priced in dollars and oil is
priced in dollars. The only problem is the first drives the other
two.


I don't understand your logic. I think it's the cost of airfare
to Europe (due mainly to the price of oil), as the other Bill
stated.

Bill


The cruise lines have to pay thier crews in euros, as well as their
taxes and fees. And the cost of fuel is just going to do nothing but
go up. $9 a day? Sure, soon to be $12, then $15, then $18. Where
does it end?

Have you looked at cruise fares in the Med for this year vs 2007?

The airlines tried a fare hike over the weekend that didn't stick.
Then American put out another surcharge, that appears to be staying.
 




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